Powerful Ladies® Podcast

What if the secret to growing your business isn't doing more, but finding the right people to grow alongside you? Entrepreneur, marketing strategist, and community builder Kelci Borges joins Kara Duffy to explore the power of intentional community, meaningful networking, and creating spaces where women entrepreneurs can thrive.

Together, they dive into how to build a community from the ground up, why genuine relationships can generate extraordinary business opportunities, and how being in the right room can create a 27X return on investment. Kelci shares her journey from running a marketing agency to founding The Breakfast Club, the lessons she's learned about membership value, pricing, and retention, and why building something meaningful sometimes means doing less, not more. They also explore creating safe spaces for women, knowing when to say no, and expanding a community into new cities without losing what makes it special.

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The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

You can find this episode transcript & explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

00:00 – Introduction

01:00 – Meet Kelci Borges: Creativity, Entrepreneurship & Empowering Women

02:00 – From Childhood Bullying to Building a Community for Women

03:00 – The Power of Being Bold in Business

05:00 – Finding Your People & The Power of Women Supporting Women

07:00 – Turning an Idea Into The Breakfast Club

10:00 – Why Real Relationships Are the Best Networking Strategy

12:00 – Work-Life Integration & Finding Your Real Deal Friends

16:00 – Building a Community That Members Actually Value

19:00 – Creating Sponsorship Opportunities & Generating 27X ROI

22:00 – Defining Your Community & Setting Membership Expectations

25:00 – Expanding The Breakfast Club Into New Cities

26:00 – How to Start a Community From Scratch

28:00 – Taking the Leap, Charging for Your Value & Pricing Your Business

32:00 – Why Women-Specific Communities Still Matter

37:00 – Building Accountability & Encouraging Members to Take Action

39:00 – Choosing the Right Technology for Your Community

42:00 – Simplifying Your Business & Making Community Accessible

43:00 – Where to Find Kelci & The Breakfast Club

44:00 – Kelci's Vision for Building a Nationwide Community

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What if the answers you've been searching for aren't in your head, but in your body? Somatic psychotherapist, choreographer, and author Arianne MacBean joins Kara Duffy to explore the connection between our minds, bodies, and emotions, and why so many of us have learned to ignore the very signals that are trying to guide us.

Together, they dive into the power of somatic healing, how generations of cultural conditioning have taught women to suppress their feelings, and why reclaiming anger can be a powerful catalyst for change. Arianne shares how to recognize the body's signals, create environments where we feel safe, and stop accepting the things that leave us feeling disconnected from ourselves. They also explore birth trauma, intuition, the different parts of ourselves, and how we can transform difficult emotions into meaningful action.

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Website: www.synergysomaticpsychotherapy.com

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The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

You can find this episode transcript & explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

00:00 – Introduction to Arianne MacBean & Somatic Healing

01:00 – Reconnecting the Mind, Body & Soul

02:00 – The History of Patriarchy & Disconnection From Our Bodies

05:00 – White-Knuckling Life & Learning to Push Through

07:00 – Why the Body Is the Gateway to Healing

08:00 – What Is Somatic Psychotherapy?

10:00 – Listening to Your Body & Understanding Its Signals

11:00 – Letting the Body Lead Through Movement

13:00 – Why Somatic Healing Doesn't Have to Be Woo-Woo

15:00 – Embodied Knowing & Trusting Your Intuition

17:00 – The Power of Women's Intuition

19:00 – From Professional Dance to Somatic Psychotherapy

23:00 – Why Safety Is Everything

25:00 – What Are You Tolerating in Your Life?

27:00 – Redefining Happiness & What We Deserve

28:00 – The Full Body Yes vs. The Cellular Yes

30:00 – Understanding Birth Trauma & Identity Shifts

32:00 – How Early Experiences Shape Our Emotional Responses

33:00 – Internal Family Systems & Understanding Your Parts

35:00 – Separating Your Emotions From Your Identity

36:00 – When Words Fail Us: Movement as Expression

38:00 – Reclaiming Women's Anger & Rage

39:00 – Learning to Feel Anger Instead of Suppressing It

40:00 – Understanding Anger as a Secondary Emotion

42:00 – Turning Anger Into Information & Actionable Change

43:00 – Arianne's Books, Somatic Circles & Where to Connect

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What if healthier skin starts with simplifying your routine, understanding your body, and finding peace within yourself? Michelle Doan, founder of Emani Vegan Cosmetics, joins Kara Duffy to explore the science behind skincare, the pressure to look a certain way, and how to make choices that support your skin through every stage of life.

Together, they discuss what vegan and Korean skincare really mean, how to evaluate ingredients, why Michelle believes in skin longevity over quick fixes, and how hormonal changes can reshape our skincare needs. Michelle also shares her journey from leaving Vietnam as a refugee to building a self-funded beauty business, the lessons hardship has taught her, and why slowing down, living in alignment, and finding your own version of beauty matter more than following every trend.

The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

You can find this episode transcript & explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

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LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-doan-emani/

TIKTOK: @emanivegan

00:00 Meet Michelle Doan & Emani Vegan Cosmetics

01:30 Clean Korean Beauty, Vegan Skincare & Sensitive Skin

02:45 The Three P’s of Skincare

05:30 Redefining Beauty, Aging & Feeling Enough

07:40 From Vietnam to California: Michelle’s Journey

08:45 Living with Cystic Acne & Finding a Purpose

10:45 Skincare Through Hormonal Changes & Menopause

12:40 Beauty Standards, Fragrance & Everyday Toxins

15:30 Finding Your Zen Garden & Inner Peace

17:30 Skin Microbiomes, Sleep & Simplifying Your Routine

20:45 Skin Academy, Consumer Education & Ingredient Trends

21:45 Vegan Skincare, Science & Skin Longevity

23:40 The Challenges of Building a Beauty Business

24:40 Passion, Conviction & Purpose-Driven Entrepreneurship

26:30 Why Michelle Believes Skincare Should Be Simple

27:45 Turning Hardship into Opportunity & Breaking Patterns

30:00 Morning Rituals, Mindset & Finding Stillness

31:30 Returning to Vietnam & Reconnecting with Her Roots

33:40 Immigration, Courage & Our Shared Humanity

36:00 Diversity, Community & Entrepreneurship in Orange County

37:40 Entrepreneur Organization & Supporting Women in Business

39:00 Emani’s Mission, Shopping Direct & Closing Reflections

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What if women no longer had to fight for answers about their own health? Madge Rumman, co-founder and CEO of Blair Health, joins Kara Duffy to discuss the urgent need for better women's healthcare and how technology can help close the gap between primary care and specialist knowledge.

Together, they explore the often-misunderstood symptoms of perimenopause, why women are too frequently dismissed by healthcare providers, and how access to information and validation can transform the patient experience. Madge also shares her journey from leading product and operations at successful tech companies to building a healthcare platform designed to make specialist-level care more accessible.

The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

You can find this episode transcript & explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madgerumman/

WEBSITE: https://blairhealth.com/

INSTA: @blair_health

00:00 — Introducing Madge Rumman & Blair Health

01:00 — Closing the Specialist Gap in Women's Health

02:00 — How Blair Health Connects Patients & Providers

04:00 — Why Women Are Still Fighting for Healthcare Answers

05:00 — Understanding Perimenopause & Getting Validated

07:00 — Technology, Women's Health & Democratizing Information

08:00 — The Growing Need for Menopause Specialists

10:00 — Childhood Dreams & Becoming an Entrepreneur

12:00 — Building Tech Products in the Age of AI

14:00 — Why Customer Feedback Beats Perfection

16:00 — What Makes a Business Attractive to Buyers?

17:00 — Lessons from the PayBright Acquisition

18:00 — Scaling Through Acquisitions & Market Opportunities

20:00 — The Emotional Side of Selling a Business

22:00 — Growing as a CEO & Building a Leadership Team

24:00 — Navigating Fundraising as a Founder

26:00 — Finding the Right Investor & Refining the Pitch

28:00 — Female Founders & The Funding Gap

29:00 — Why She Named Her Company Blair Health

30:00 — Perimenopause Myths & Misdiagnosis

32:00 — The Impact of Midlife Health on Women's Careers

33:00 — Commonly Overlooked Perimenopause Symptoms

34:00 — Protecting Patient Privacy & Sensitive Health Data

36:00 — Why Accessible Women's Healthcare Benefits Everyone

37:00 — Where to Find Blair Health

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What if the next step in your career isn't working harder, but learning how to own your power? Kelly Mooney, a three-time author, entrepreneur, public company board director, and founder of Equipt Women, joins Kara Duffy to unpack why so many women struggle to advocate for themselves, get recognized for their contributions, and step into leadership.

Drawing on her journey from intern to CEO and scaling a digital agency before selling it to IBM, Kelly shares practical strategies for negotiating your worth, building influential relationships, and asking for the opportunities you deserve. They also explore the invisible rules holding women back, the importance of sponsorship, and how to build a business that grows without losing focus. It's a conversation packed with actionable advice for creating a career, & a life, that reflects your values, your ambition, and your power.

The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

You can find this episode transcript & explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

WEBSITE: http://equiptwomen.com/

LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pkmooney/

INSTAGRAM: pkmooney

00:00 Introducing Kelly Mooney

01:15 Discovering a Lifelong Mission of Women's Empowerment

03:00 Why Women Struggle to Recognize Their Power

05:30 Power, Leadership & Learning to Listen

09:30 Setting Boundaries & Simplifying Your Business

14:30 From Intern to CEO: Kelly's Agency Journey

16:30 The Strategies Behind Scaling a Digital Agency

21:30 Measuring Impact & Building Long-Term Client Relationships

24:00 Self-Advocacy: Making Your Contributions Visible

26:30 Why Sponsorship Matters for Career Advancement

29:30 Equipping Women to Become the Next Generation of Leaders

32:30 Interview Skills, Networking & Finding Your Next Job

36:30 The Inspiration Behind *Up*

40:30 Caregiving, Economic Barriers & Access to Opportunity

45:30 Living Your Values & Managing Your Time Intentionally

48:30 Taking Control of Your Financial Life

49:30 Where to Find *Up* & Equipped Women

50:30 Kelly's Goal to Impact One Million Women's Careers

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What if looking successful on the outside is actually masking burnout, disconnection, and overwhelm on the inside? Dr. Mini Rattu, psychologist, executive wellness coach, and nervous system expert, joins Kara Duffy to explore why so many high-achieving women are functioning at a high level while feeling depleted, stuck, or disconnected from themselves.

Together they dive into nervous system regulation, “high-functioning freeze,” the invisible mental load women carry, and why state precedes strategy. Dr. Mini shares how understanding our patterns, listening to our bodies, and building self-trust can help us move from survival-driven success toward sustainable performance, confidence, and leadership.

The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

You can find this episode transcript & explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

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WEBSITE: drmini.co

LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrattu/

YOUTUBE: https://m.youtube.com/@drminikaurrattu

FACEBOOK: https://m.youtube.com/@drminikaurrattu

00:00 — Meet Dr. Mini Rattu

01:00 — Psychology, Yoga & Nervous System Regulation

03:00 — Bringing Yoga Into Healthcare

05:00 — Burnout & Organizational Stress

06:00 — When “Just Breathe” Isn’t Enough

08:00 — Meeting Your Nervous System Where It’s At

09:00 — High-Functioning Freeze

11:00 — Why Women Normalize Anxiety & Stress

13:00 — Recognizing Your Body’s Early Warning Signals

15:00 — Over-Functioning, People-Pleasing & Stress

16:00 — Why State Precedes Strategy

18:00 — How Dr. Mini Found Her Path

20:00 — Perfectionism, Self-Sacrifice & Boundaries

22:00 — Can We Have Ambition Without Burnout?

23:00 — The Invisible Load Women Carry

26:00 — Inside the Unstuck Program

29:00 — Self-Trust & Getting Out of the Cycle of “More”

31:00 — Growth Edges Can Feel Like Anxiety

33:00 — Practicing What You Teach

34:00 — Movement, Mindfulness & Bodybuilding

35:00 — Rest, Recovery & Rethinking Your Calendar

37:00 — Stop Apologizing for Having Needs

39:00 — Sustainable Success Without Self-Abandonment

40:00 — Where to Find Dr. Mini Rattu

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What if success had less to do with what you achieve and more to do with how you feel about your life? Author and leadership coach Becca Pearce joins Kara Duffy to explore what it means to redefine success, let go of external expectations, and create a life that reflects what truly matters.

After losing her job publicly and facing a brain tumor diagnosis, Becca began questioning everything she once believed about achievement, money, and career. Together, they explore the power of choosing yourself, identifying your values, and recognizing that you don't have to sacrifice your happiness or relationships to build a meaningful life.

The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

You can find this episode transcript & explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

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LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beccapearce/

00:00 Introduction to Becca Pearce 

01:30 Redefining Success 

02:40 You Don't Have to Achieve to Be Loved 

04:00 The Cost of Career Ambition 

05:40 Finding Fulfillment Outside of Work 

07:40 Financial Freedom and Living Below Your Means 

11:50 Losing a Job, Facing a Brain Tumor & Changing Priorities 

14:40 Resisting the Pull of Corporate Success 

15:50 Turning Life Lessons Into a Book 

18:00 Logic, Emotion & Finding Your Zone of Genius 

21:40 Why People Are Ready for Change 

24:00 Choosing Yourself and Making Time for What Matters 

26:30 The Power of Challenging Someone's Perspective 

27:30 Teaching the Next Generation to Choose Themselves 

30:50 Letting Go of Fear and Limiting Beliefs 

32:00 Identifying Transferable Skills & Creating New Opportunities 

33:30 Letting Go of Unnecessary Responsibilities 

34:00 Speaking, Coaching & Redefining Success 

35:20 Defining Your Values and Your Own Version of Success 

37:20 Becca's Values Exercise 

39:30 Delegation, Commitment & Valuing Your Time 

41:20 Where to Find Becca Pearce

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What if sharing your story and knowledge could change someone’s life and create opportunities you never expected? Podcast Matchmaker, author, and PR expert Michelle Glogovac joins Kara Duffy to talk about thought leadership, networking, visibility, and why women need to stop waiting for permission to share what they know.

Together, they explore how to balance multiple passions and projects, why “true balance” doesn’t really exist, how to stay informed without becoming overwhelmed, and why showing up, even in small ways, can create meaningful change. Michelle also shares her journey from aviation and selling jet fuel to podcasting and PR, the power of building genuine relationships, and why every podcast appearance is an opportunity to create more content, connections, and impact.

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The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

You can find this episode transcript & explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

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EPISODE CHAPTERS:

00:00 — Meet Michelle Glogovac

01:00 — Why Three Podcasts?

04:00 — Finding Balance in a Complicated World

09:00 — Why Women Need to Embrace Thought Leadership

13:00 — Shiny Objects, Goals & Finishing What You Start

18:00 — From Law to Aviation to PR & Podcasting

25:00 — Women, Health & Advocating for Yourself

30:00 — The Power of Networking & Building Community

35:00 — How to Maximize Every Podcast Appearance

37:00 — Sharing Your Story Can Change Someone’s Life

38:00 — Motherhood, Hope & the Next Generation

42:00 — Michelle’s Ask: Pay Attention & Show Up

43:00 — What’s Next for Michelle

44:00 — Who Is the Right Client for Michelle?

45:00 — Where to Find Michelle

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What if trusting your intuition could change the way you build your business and your life? Chocolatier, entrepreneur, and alchemist Katrina Markoff joins Kara Duffy to explore the intersection of science, spirituality, sensory experience, and the power of following your inner knowing.

Together, they talk about the courage to trust yourself, why so many of us give other people’s opinions too much authority, and how reconnecting with the wisdom of the body can help us make clearer decisions. Katrina shares her journey from studying chemistry and attending Le Cordon Bleu to creating a chocolate company rooted in biodynamic cacao, regenerative agriculture, neuroscience, and ritual.

They also dive into abundance versus scarcity, knowing when it’s time to let go, the unexpected people who can open doors for us, and why sometimes the path forward begins with simply remembering who you already are.

The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

Explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

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WEBSITE: violetflamechocolate.com

INSTA: @violetflamechocolate

00:00 — Engineer Jordan’s Special Treat

01:00 — Meet Katrina Markoff

03:00 — The Science & Magic of Chocolate

05:00 — Where Courage Comes From

07:00 — Remembering Who You Were as a Kid

11:00 — Creating From Purpose, Not Awards

13:00 — The Wisdom of the Body

15:00 — Practicing Intuition in Everyday Life

17:00 — Knowing When It’s Time to Move On

19:00 — The Power of Chocolate Rituals

21:00 — Reclaiming Pleasure & Sensory Experience

23:00 — The Magic of Movement & New Places

26:00 — Motherhood, Travel & Following Your Nudges

28:00 — Biodynamic Cacao & Regenerative Agriculture

32:00 — Neuroscience, Sensory Perception & Presence

35:00 — Breaking Free From Fear-Based Systems

37:00 — Abundance vs. Scarcity

39:00 — Vulnerability, Community & Letting People Help

41:00 — The Unexpected People Who Open Doors

44:00 — Where to Find Katrina

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What happens when the life you imagined for yourself doesn’t happen on the timeline, or in the order you expected? In this deeply personal episode of Powerful Ladies, Kara Duffy sits down with her dear friend and past guest Aleks Lason to talk about becoming a mom by choice, navigating a two-year IVF journey, and building a new chapter of her life without putting her ambition on hold.

Kara opens up about why she kept her IVF journey private, the emotional and physical realities of multiple rounds of egg retrievals and embryo transfers, and the moment she had to grieve the family she thought she would have. She shares how choosing herself ultimately created more freedom—not just in motherhood, but in her businesses and her life.

Six months into motherhood, Kara also gets candid about pregnancy, an emergency C-section, the realities of postpartum recovery, choosing a birth partner, building systems around a newborn, and learning when to let the plan change. Together, Kara and Aleks explore what it means to build a life that makes room for motherhood, entrepreneurship, creativity, friendship, and joy—without believing you have to compromise one for another.

The Powerful Ladies podcast, hosted by business coach and strategist Kara Duffy features candid conversations with entrepreneurs, creatives, athletes, chefs, writers, scientists, and more. Every Wednesday, new episodes explore what it means to lead with purpose, create with intention, and define success on your own terms.

Whether you're growing a business, changing careers, or asking bigger questions, these stories remind you: you're not alone, and you're more powerful than you think.

Explore more at thepowerfulladies.com and karaduffy.com.

INSTA: @kara_duffy  

WEBSITE: karaduffy.com

00:00 — Kara Has a Baby?!

01:00 — Becoming a Mom by Choice

03:00 — Why Kara Kept Her IVF Journey Private

05:00 — Choosing Motherhood Without Waiting for a Partner

08:00 — What the IVF Process Actually Looks Like

12:00 — Three Egg Retrievals, Two Embryo Transfers & the Emotional Toll

15:00 — Grieving the Family She Thought She’d Have

17:00 — When an Embryo Transfer Goes Wrong

22:00 — The Anxiety of IVF & “I’ll Believe It When I See It”

25:00 — Hearing Kaia’s Heartbeat

27:00 — Planning for Motherhood When You Can’t Plan Everything

30:00 — Pregnancy Changed Everything at Work

32:00 — Treating Motherhood Like a Project

34:00 — The Emergency C-Section

36:00 — The Scariest Experience of Kara’s Life

39:00 — Five Seconds With Her Baby

42:00 — Writing SOPs for Birth

44:00 — Choosing Andrew as Her Birth Partner

48:00 — How Kara Chose a Sperm Donor

51:00 — Getting Kaia a Passport at Three Months

52:00 — The Schedule Gene

55:00 — Is Raising a Baby Like Running a Business?

57:00 — Building a Life Without Expanded Resources

59:00 — “I Love Being a Mom, 1,000 Out of 10”

01:00:00 — Pumping, Mastitis & Learning to Trust Her Body

01:03:00 — “I Became a Mom to Be a Mom”

01:05:00 — What’s Next for Kara

01:06:00 — The Substack, Motherhood & Redefining “Less but Better”

01:13:00 — Naming Kaia-Roux

01:15:00 — Motherhood, Empathy & Letting Your Child Be Their Own Person

01:18:00 — Gratitude, Miracles & the Next Chapter

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