In this episode, Chris sits down with Austin Tunnell, founder of Building Culture - a real estate development and design-build company based in Oklahoma City specializing in structural masonry construction and walkable, mixed-use urban infill.

Austin's path to real estate is one of the more unusual ones we've had on the show. He grew up a football player in the suburbs of Houston, went to work at KPMG out of college, hated it, and joined the Peace Corps. A chance meeting with a master mason in Panama changed the trajectory of his life. He returned to the US and apprenticed for two years laying brick by hand for $12 an hour in rural Oklahoma while his wife cleaned houses to support them. Today Austin designs and develops some of the most beautiful residential and mixed-use projects being built in America, including an 18-townhome, live-work, and mixed-use commercial project currently underway in downtown Edmond, Oklahoma.

Chris and Austin go deep on Austin's philosophy of beauty, the case for building things meant to last hundreds of years, and the policy, financing, and culture obstacles standing in the way.

We discuss:

- How a chance meeting with a master mason in Panama changed the trajectory of Austin's life

- The difference between veneer brick and true structural masonry, and why almost no one in the US builds the real thing anymore

- Why Austin believes beauty is real, beauty is important, and beauty "connects us to the divine"

- Five simple brick details any developer can use to make a veneer building look dramatically better for almost no added cost

- How fire codes, building codes, and Euclidean zoning quietly destroy neighborhoods and push developers toward the same ugly apartment complexes

- Austin's long-term-hold model for funding new construction infill, inspired by Moses Kagan and ReSeed

- Missing middle housing, walkability, and why a 30-unit townhome neighborhood can feel more like home than any class-A apartment building

About the guest: Austin Tunnell is the founder of Building Culture, an Oklahoma City-based real estate development and design-build firm focused on beautiful, durable, human-scale neighborhoods. Building Culture specializes in structural masonry construction, walkable urban infill, and mixed-use development.

Links:

Building Culture - https://www.buildingculture.com/

Austin on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@austintunnell

Austin on X - https://x.com/austintunnell

Austin on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/austin-tunnell-2a41894a/

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro

(00:02:33) - Austin’s journey with the Peace Corps and how that led him to Masonry

(00:12:26) - Why we moved away from Masonry and toward wood frames

(00:15:19) - What drew Austin to Masonry

(00:19:34) - Learning the craft

(00:24:25) - Why humans gravitate toward humanely built things

(00:26:51) - What people can do with brick to get more value from a home

(00:31:23) - What to ask architects when looking for a Mason

(00:32:39) - Training Masons

(00:33:28) - Austin’s project in Edmond, OK

(00:38:17) - Defining beauty

(00:50:03) - The impact of over regulation in construction and zoning

(00:55:50) - Austin on scaling his business

(00:59:38) - Local, state, and national policies that need to change

(01:05:03) - Interior beauty in Austin’s world

(01:09:30) - Tax incentives and capital structures

(01:16:52) - Building a media business in Real Estate

(01:18:05) - Live-work real estate

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Today I sit down with Jason McCann, Co-Founder and CEO of Vari - a company that started when his business partner stood at a cardboard box complaining of back pain and turned that moment into a brand that has shipped millions of desks and transformed over a thousand offices.

Jason built Vari direct-to-consumer in an industry that had never seen it. He bootstrapped the company while every instinct in the market said raise capital and burn cash. He became the fastest-growing company in Dallas, survived COVID after just putting $15 million into a TV campaign and opening 12 showrooms, and came out the other side as a fundamentally different leader.

We go deep on what it actually takes to innovate legacy product categories, how he recruited the former Chief People Officer of Southwest Airlines over a cup of coffee, and why an introvert had to learn to over-communicate when hundreds of families were counting on him.

I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I did.

Links:

Vari - https://www.vari.com/

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Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:03:29) - How Vari was started
(00:08:42) - How entrepreneurs should think about product development
(00:11:24) - How Jason approaches AI
(00:24:07) - Developing the standing desk
(00:36:53) - Jason’s approach to manufacturing
(00:47:16) - How Vari develops new products and services
(00:56:59) - Bringing on the head of people of Southwest Airlines
(01:04:31) - How Vari thinks about innovation vs. leaving products alone
(01:14:55) - The future of work in 2026
(01:19:50) - The reindustrialization of America
(01:23:36) - Jason’s unique leadership style
(01:28:47) - Why Jason only wears black
(01:31:52) - What a week looks like for Jason
(01:40:46) - How vari runs exec meetings

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In this episode, I sit down with Jordan Levi to explore how he’s built a unique edge in the cattle industry by combining deep analytical thinking with real-world market experience. Jordan walks me through how he approaches cattle trading, the key biological and financial variables that ultimately determine profit and loss, and how he developed his framework without growing up in the business. We spend time unpacking how the cattle market actually works, where volatility comes from, and how operators think about risk across the cycle. We also dive into how he’s embracing AI tools and building custom workflows to stay ahead in a fast-moving, data-heavy environment.

We discuss:

- How the cattle market works and why volatility creates both risk and opportunity

- The key drivers of profitability including feed efficiency, average daily gain, and out weight

- The difference between biological intuition and building a data-driven edge in cattle trading

- How Jordan processes daily reports and market data to inform trading decisions

- How he’s building AI agents to summarize information and streamline his workflow

Links:

Vote for Jordan to be inducted into the Cattle Feeders Hall of Fame - https://cattlefeeders.org/poll/2027-cattle-feeders-hall-of-fame/

Jordan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-levi-b107182/

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:02:16) - The Belted Galloway
(00:03:51) - The Kosher Cowboy
(00:08:05) - Pulling value of the futures forward
(00:11:43) - Learning cattle trading
(00:16:48) - Daily average gain in cattle
(00:18:20) - Jordan’s eureka moment in the cattle industry
(00:21:08) - What does trading in animals actually look like?
(00:27:05) - How Jordan defines his ROI in trading cattle
(00:31:17) - The cattle curve
(00:33:37) - The state of the cattle market
(00:42:10) - Buying the largest cattle feeder in the world
(00:46:09) - Grass vs. grain-fed cattle
(00:49:15) - Predictions for the cattle supply over the next 10 years
(00:50:54) - The international market
(00:53:17) - Trading frequencies and macro thesis
(01:00:27) - USA beef vs. international beef
(01:05:21) - The cattle supply chain
(01:07:32) - The future of auction yards and ranchers
(01:09:40) - AI in AgTech
(01:12:52) - The biggest problem facing the industry
(01:14:42) - Livestock as a commodity that dies and how that impacts trading theory
(01:20:51) - Is there a market for new entrants into cattle?
(01:21:41) - Beef prices and the impact of a closed border on the industry
(01:24:39) - Jordan’s biggest ideas for the industry
(01:26:49) - Philanthropic efforts
(01:31:24) - A day in the life of Jordan
(01:26:42) - Risk management in cattle
(01:41:17) - Does what you do show a leading indicator to the broader health of the American economy?

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In this episode, I sit down with JB Mauney to unpack the mindset, discipline, and resilience required to become one of the greatest bull riders in the world. We talk through the realities of competing at the highest level while constantly dealing with injuries, and how mental toughness separates the best from the rest. JB shares how he approached his career with a singular focus, what it meant to fully commit without a backup plan, and how he navigated the abrupt transition out of the sport. This conversation offers a raw look at what it takes to pursue excellence in one of the most physically and mentally demanding professions.

We discuss:

- The role of mental toughness in separating elite performers from the rest

- Why riding through pain was a necessity, not a choice

- The philosophy of “make plan A work” and going all in on one path

- How injuries and setbacks compound over a long career

- Transitioning out of a career with no clear backup plan

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:03:27) - What does it mean to “work bulls”?
(00:06:23) - How can you tell if a bull is good?
(00:11:35) - JB’s approach to bull riding
(00:16:39) - JB’s early life and bull riding
(00:23:07) - Being in control of a bull
(00:28:00) - How bulls differ
(00:32:07) - What’s happening in the chute?
(00:40:44) - JB’s injury list
(00:43:10) - What makes the difference between the top bull rider and the 50th best bull rider?
(00:51:22) - Mental vs. physical technique
(00:55:02) - How much do the bull fighters matter?
(00:57:28) - Why causes a rider to be thrown off?
(01:01:14) - Riding Bushwhacker and what makes the perfect bull
(01:14:35) - When bulls die & retire
(01:18:55) - BuckTown
(01:22:12) - A typical week for a professional bull rider
(01:23:37) - The lacerated liver story
(01:30:58) - Why BuckTown is a bull rider’s paradise
(01:36:24) - How riding is scored
(01:43:43) - How do you “practice” bull riding?
(01:51:16) - The cowboy code of riding
(01:55:48) - Giving a bull a brand of honor
(01:57:55) - How they move bulls around the country for rodeos
(02:10:05) - Raising bulls in BuckTown
(02:12:46) - JB’s routine
(02:16:05) - The ABBI
(02:20:37) - The buzz around BuckTown
(02:30:20) - When a bull knows who their rider was
(02:33:43) - Is there one ride over your career that sticks with you?
(02:39:10) - Can a bull get a 50 score?
(02:46:55) - Wrapping up

Links:

BuckTown on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@BuckTown-XV

BuckTown on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bucktown_xv/

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In this episode, I sit down with NASCAR legend Carl Edwards to explore the unlikely journey that took him from a dirt track in Missouri to the highest levels of professional racing. Carl shares how a childhood fascination with his father’s racing career sparked a relentless pursuit that eventually led to NASCAR success. Along the way, we unpack the strategy behind racing, the persistence it took for Carl to break into the sport, and the pivotal moments that defined his career. We also discuss the surprising decision to walk away from racing at the height of his career and the deeper personal transformation that followed.

We discuss:

- Carl’s early inspiration from watching his father race and the moment he knew he wanted to drive race cars

- The persistence and unconventional path it took to break into professional racing and reach NASCAR

- The strategic complexity of racing, from managing tire grip to communicating with engineers and crew

- Why Carl chose to retire at the peak of his career and the realization that reshaped his priorities

- The identity shift, spiritual journey, and life lessons that came after stepping away from racing

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:04:23) - Carl’s early days racing
(00:09:37) - The strategy behind auto racing
(00:13:05) - Why isn’t everyone driving a “1st place” car?
(00:19:28) - How important is the pit crew?
(00:22:13) - What does a typical week look like for a NASCAR driver?
(00:23:56) - Carl’s career storyline
(00:39:58) - The conversation that led Carl to consider walking away from the sport
(00:51:50) - Rebuilding life after NASCAR
(01:02:06) - The impact of Cloud Camp & John Marsh
(01:17:08) - Being inducted into the NASCAR hall of fame
(01:22:15) - What Carl is doing today

Links:

Carl's hall of fame speech - https://youtu.be/IQJHH2f9EnI

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Today I sit down with Christopher Zook to explore how he built and scaled CAZ Investments into an $11B alternative investment platform.  

Christopher shares the early vision behind launching his firm at age 31 and the philosophy of investing his own capital first before inviting others to participate alongside him. We discuss how a chance confrontation in a country club locker room ultimately forced him to rethink capital formation and marketing, transforming the trajectory of the business. Christopher also breaks down the strategy behind GP stakes, the evolution of private markets, and why alignment with partners sits at the center of everything he does.

We discuss:

• How Christopher built an investment firm around the principle of investing his own capital first alongside partners

• The locker room moment that forced a shift toward proactive capital formation and communication with investors

• Designing an irresistible offer by eliminating management fees and aligning incentives entirely with investor outcomes

• How GP stakes investing works and why it has become one of the most powerful business models in private markets

• Why themes like media rights, private markets expansion, and access to alternatives are shaping the future of investing

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Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:03:53) - The origins of CAZ Investments
(00:12:42) - Creating the irresistible offer
(00:17:38) - Partnering with Tony Robbins
(00:36:54) - GP stakes explained
(00:41:48) - Secondary market edge
(00:44:58) - How GP stakes are underwritten
(00:49:48) - Tech and venture carry risk
(00:53:12) - Consolidation trends
(00:56:31) - Big checks and liquidity rights
(01:02:18) - Thematic funds and investor access
(01:07:04) - Alignment rules and guardrails
(01:11:03) - Sports team investing thesis
(01:15:54) - Media rights and league economics
(01:26:11) - Democratizing alternatives

Links:

CAZ Investments - https://cazinvestments.com/

Christopher on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-zook

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Today’s episode is with a great friend of mine, Chris Huckabee, Founder @ MORE Group.  

We unpack his company's remarkable private equity journey and why it was so successful.  Chris shares how the unexpected loss of his business partner pushed him to rethink the future of his company, leading to a strategic shift, a private equity partnership, and rapid national expansion. 

We talk candidly about valuation surprises, building trust with employees during major transitions, and what makes a great private equity partner. Then we pivot to education reform, AI’s impact on schools, and the deeply personal story of how Chris helped lead the effort to rebuild Robb Elementary in Uvalde, TX, after the tragic shooting.

We discuss:

• The process Chris went through to pursue private equity and national expansion

• Why he told every employee about the strategic plan before making a deal • How to hire the right investment banker

• The hard lessons around valuation, deal structure, and selecting the right private equity partner

• What AI means for K–12 and higher education and where public education must improve

• How he mobilized donors and contractors to rebuild Robb Elementary in Uvalde, TX

Links:

MoreGroup - https://moregroup-inc.com/

Chris on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-huckabee-693a3a31/

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Topics:

(00:03:19) - Chris’ journey to finding Private Equity

(00:09:27) - Strategic planning

(00:11:31) - Valuing the business

(00:14:36) - People don’t like change

(00:17:43) - Making the decision to pursue PE

(00:21:28) - Finding the right Investment Banker

(00:37:26) - Selecting a buyer

(00:44:44) - The first day after selling to PE

(00:47:59) - Going out to buy companies

(00:51:16) - What makes a great PE partner

(00:57:08) - The state of Education and AI

(01:13:16) - Rebuilding Robb Elementary in Uvalde after the 2022 shooting

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 I sit down with my friend Todd Peterson to unpack some of the most meaningful conversations we have had over the years about faith, leadership, marriage, and the hidden risks that come with success. We talk candidly about why so many men fall at the peak of their influence and how isolation, pride, and lack of accountability quietly take hold. Todd shares hard-earned perspective from his own life, including lessons from his NFL career, his walk with Jesus, and decades of mentoring men through seasons of growth and unraveling. This conversation is deeply personal, reflective, and grounded in the practical realities of what it means to live with humility, conviction, and purpose.

We discuss:

Why isolation and unchecked success often lead great men to fall

The role of humility, confession, and accountability in long-term leadership

How marriage and trusted relationships shape a man’s character and decisions

The difference between being saved and actively walking in the Spirit

Why meaningful impact is always built through collaboration, not independence

This episode is for anyone wrestling with ambition, faith, leadership, or the desire to build a life that holds up over time.

Todd Peterson is the interim CEO and Chairman Emeritus of Seed Company, a world leader in accelerated Scripture translation. Seed Company has partnered with more than 900 other agencies to cumulatively impact more than 1,100 language groups over the last 20 years.

Peterson was drafted in 1993 by the NY Giants, leading to a 13-year career in the NFL where he also played for Seattle, Kansas City, San Francisco and Atlanta. He set a number of team records and two NFL records – one of which is since broken (most 40-plus-yard field goals in a season). He was named NFL True Value Man of the Year for the Seahawks in 1996 and twice received the NFL Players Association Byron “Whizzer” White award for excellence in character and leadership on his teams. He was twice nominated for the NFL’s Bart Starr Award. Peterson retired in 2006 as one of only 34 players to score over 1,000 points. He is the only player in NFL history to make game-winning field goals for five or more different teams.

(00:03:45) - Why great men “fall”

(00:08:32) - Success-induced isolation

(00:14:23) - Sin

(00:21:31) - Salvation

(00:23:42) - A day in Todd’s life

(00:30:41) - Living in a biblically illiterate world

(00:36:03) - The importance of marriage

(00:50:08) - Having a close group of men in your life

(00:55:42) - Having a relationship with Jesus is hard

(01:09:21) - Undeserved favor

Links:

Seed Company - https://seedcompany.com/

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Today I sit down with two of my best friends, Moses Kagan and Rhett Bennett to reflect on how ReSeed has evolved since their first appearance (ep. 278) on the show three years ago.  

ReSeed is on a mission to back the next generation of elite real estate operators.

We unpacked what has actually happened since launch, how their original vision has held up in practice, and what they have learned by deploying real capital across multiple markets and operators. 

We also dug into how they think about underwriting, operator selection, asset management intensity, and navigating a shifting multifamily landscape. It was a candid look at what it really takes to build a disciplined, long term real estate platform in today’s market.

We discuss:

• How ReSeed’s original thesis has played out after deploying over $100M across multiple operators

• What they look for in emerging operators and how the cohort selection process has evolved

• Why discipline and patience mattered during a slow deal environment and when opportunities finally opened up

• How they approach underwriting, leverage, and long-duration capital in different markets

• The realities of asset management, property management, and execution risk at smaller deal sizes

This episode is for investors, operators, and anyone interested in building durable real estate businesses with long term alignment and disciplined capital deployment.

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:04:01) - ReSeed's journey and evolution
(00:17:14) - Profile and selection of operators
(00:25:10) - Partnership and capital structure
(00:37:39) - Due diligence and deal approval process
(00:40:51) - Cohort integration and support
(00:42:55) - Real estate market overview
(00:43:22) - Market opportunities and challenges
(00:50:41) - Market fatigue and seller dynamics
(00:51:20) - Operational challenges and opportunities
(01:01:50) - Property management and asset management
(01:11:36) - Construction management and budgeting
(01:15:06) - Capital allocation
(01:23:34) - Closing remarks

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In today’s episode, I sit down with Ryan Heath, Founder of Trustpoint Legal, to explore what a modern “Family Office 2.0” actually looks like and why the old models are falling short. We talk about how family offices are evolving from static wealth preservation vehicles into operating businesses built around people, purpose, and multi-generational decision making. Ryan shares lessons from working closely with families navigating liquidity events, succession, and generational transitions, and why flexibility and intentional design matter more than rigid structures. The conversation centers on treating the family office as a living organization, not just a collection of legal documents.

Many can relate to putting in strategic plans for their businesses, their health, etc.  What’s funny is we often don’t put the same planning into what’s most important to us - our family.  

Ryan is on a mission to help families change that.

We discuss:

What defines a Family Office 2.0 and how it differs from traditional family office models

Why legacy, values, and human dynamics drive long-term outcomes more than tax efficiency

How flexible mandates help families adapt as generations, priorities, and circumstances change

The risks of poor communication and rushed planning during liquidity events or succession

How intentional family meetings and shared mission statements strengthen multi-generational alignment

This episode is especially valuable for founders and families rethinking how to structure wealth, leadership, and legacy in a way that actually works across generations.

Links:

Ryan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanheath1/

TrustPoint Legal - https://www.trustpointlegal.com/

Topics:

(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:05:11) - Legacy over wealth
(00:09:04) - Flexibility in estate planning
(00:18:25) - The importance of transparency
(00:27:22) - Handling family conflicts
(00:42:00) - Proactive planning and transparency
(00:52:15) - The silver tsunami and trusts for grandchildren
(00:54:28) - Ruling from the grave
(00:57:49) - Trustees and their roles
(01:01:38) - Understanding family offices
(01:06:39) - The three pillars of a family office
(01:09:21) - The complexities of 678 trusts
(01:12:40) - Family limited partnerships explained
(01:15:13) - The importance of succession planning
(01:22:52) - Coordinating family meetings
(01:30:33) - The perfect family office: a case study
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