Perry and Shawna welcome Genevieve Marnon of Right to Life in Michigan and Joshua Harrison, a pro-life advocate for a conversation about saving three to six month old pre-born babies from dismemberment abortion. Michigan lawmakers are in the process of passing a ban on dismemberment abortion that our Governor has vowed to veto. But 400,000 signatures by December 23 will do an end around the governor and put this law into effect. Get a petition at Michiganvalueslife.org. Genevieve shares the powerful story of her great-great-great grandmother choosing life after being assaulted, an agonizing decision that gave Genevieve life. A West Michigan listener calls to share that in all her 23 years of working with disabled children not one parent has ever said: "I wish I had never had this child." Joshua Harrison shares a challenge for men to take the lead in the fight to save the pre-born. And finally we wrap up with a conversation about the need to bring up this painful subject in our churches so that those who've had abortions can be healed.