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  • #141. Best of Product Marketing (so far) on Presentation Thinking

    Whenever we talk to a product marketer, we know they’re going to relate to the “Presentation Thinking” project. 

    Product Marketers tend to be “Big Picture” people, excellent communicators and always end up creating slides on slides on slides. 

    Steve Earl joins Mikey and Molly to break down their “playlist” of the Best of Product Marketing (so far) on the ‘cast. As we each revisited a handful of these conversations, it was clear that patterns were emerging. 

    • The pathways to product marketing are varied. From Jen Jones studying neuroscience to Harvey Lee touring with ACDC in the music industry, product marketers land where they are in all kinds of ways. 
    • Personal positioning and lived experience often contribute to a product marketer’s journey. 
    • Narrative informs everything, not just a singular one-off presentation. 
    • This is an episode for: product marketers, aspiring marketers and anyone interested in improving personal positioning or brand narrative.

      What's in the Spice Cabinet??

      • #114 - Tamara Grominsky
      • #111 - Marcus Andrews
      • #108 - Harvey Lee 
      • #99 - Ashima Bhatt
      • #97 - Garrett Denney
      • #70 - Steve Earl
      • #64 - Chris Lynch
      • #60 - Jen Jones
      • #59 - Esther Yoon
      • #57 - Rukma Sen
      • 45 min
      • #140. How to work for (and trust) yourself with Nick Lafferty

        Nick Lafferty says early on in our conversation he was a “terrible student” in school but he’s taught and challenged himself with so many skills, it’s hard to believe.

        Founder of Early Exit Club—a network and newsletter for people that want to work for themselves—Nick’s experience in product marketing to paid ads has provided a unique perspective on the importance of soft skills, go-to-market strategy and simply trusting yourself. 

        Starting at a radio job in Texas, finding affiliate marketing and following software development along the way, Nick has an incredible journey to the place where he’s now able to run his own consulting company optimizing ads AND writes regularly for Early Exit Club, giving (free!) advice for freelancers. 

        We talk go-to-market strategy for freelancers, personal positioning and nerd out on some software (shoutout Loom!).
        This is an episode for: software nerds, product marketers and anyone that wants to work for themselves.


        What’s in the Spice Cabinet?? 

        Get in on Nick’s Early Exit Club

        • Sign up here!

        • Get Early Exit’s “Dad” hat here

        • Where to find Nick?

          • He’s a killer follow on LinkedIn

          • Inspiring people to follow?

            • Tamara Grominsky’s PMM Camp & Newsletter (she’s got the positioning framework Nick references) 

            • Arthur Brooks - “The Science of Happiness”

            • Elena Verna’s “Growth Scoop”

            • Loom resources?

              • Loom Community

              • How Nick recharges his personal batteries

                • Small groups and 1:1s

                • Video games - Nick is a GUILD MASTER in World of Warcraft! 

                • Nick just moved to NYC and can’t wait to walk everywhere 

                • Walkout song? 

                  • Spin by Taking Back Sunday

                  • 46 min
                  • #139. Reflecting on 22 years of Presentation Summit with Rick Altman, Dr. Carmen Simon and Mike Parkinson

                    Rick Altman has been hosting the Presentation Summit for 22 years and this October will be his last— “at least in THIS format!”, he emphasizes. 

                    It’s a party—eh, I mean conference—for PowerPoint enthusiasts and presentation nerds like the conference veterans Dr. Carmen Simon (Corporate Visions) and Mike Parkinson (Billion Dollar Graphics), who join us for this episode.

                    All presentation experts in their own right, Rick, Carmen and Mike found their way to Presentation Summit through unique work in software, data, design and neuroscience. 

                    While we talked to Rick back in Episode #71 about his journey with this annual event, he invites Carmen and Mike to share their experiences, their nostalgia, what they’ve learned and how the presentation community has grown with Presentation Summit.  

                    It’s like summer camp for anyone interested in presentation and storytelling—and it’s literally a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to join this October 20th-23rd.  

                    This is an episode for: presentation designers, speakers and ANYONE curious about finding a presentation/storytelling community!


                    What's in the Spice Cabinet??

                    Just do it.

                    • Attend the (final!) Presentation Summit in person on October 20-23! 

                    • Virtual option is November 3-6!

                    • Check out Dr. Carmen Simon’s work…

                      • Her new book, Made You Look: How to use brain science to attract attention and persuade others is out now!

                      • Corporate Visions

                      • Check out Mike Parkinson’s work…

                        • Billion Dollar Graphics

                        • Incredibly helpful Graphics Cheat Sheet here! 

                        • Some reccos from this talented crew?

                          • Books:

                            • Rick’s OG book, Why Most PowerPoint Presentations Suck and How You Can Make them Better

                            • Carmen’s books, of course

                            • Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely 

                            • Stephy Hogan’s soon-to-be-released A Designer’s Field Guide to PowerPoint 

                            • People to Follow:

                              • Echo Swinford

                              • Julie Terberg

                              • Nolan Haims

                              • Richard Goring from Bright Carbon

                              • Podcasts:

                                • The Presentation Podcast

                                • What’s everyone’s walkout song?

                                  • Rick Altman: Sultans of Swing by Dire Straits
                                  • Dr. Carmen Simon: Barbara’s Rhubarb Bar by Bodo Wartke ft. Marti Fischer
                                  • Mike Parkinson: Titanium by David Guetta ft. Sia
                                  • 56 min
                                  • #138. Presentation Thinking ties the knot: How to officiate a wedding

                                    “We do” believe that presentations are all around us—and Molly’s recent experience being an officiant for her brother’s wedding emphasized this.

                                    From creating a throughline with the ceremony story, catering to the audience and keeping the delivery well-paced, the foundations of good presenting all came up throughout this process in helping two people get married. 

                                    Ceremonies of matrimony have taken place as long as storytelling itself so it was interesting to dive into this idea of a wedding “presentation” and building it specifically to fit with the bride and groom’s story. 

                                    Molly shares some tips that helped her, logistical recommendations and what went well (and wrong!).

                                    This is an episode for: presenters, motivational speakers and anybody that’s been asked to officiate or give a wedding speech.


                                    What’s in the Spice Cabinet?? 

                                    Unique/Non-traditional wedding ceremony ideas/starting points

                                    • Emma Thurgood Weddings

                                    • Laura Alpizar Photography

                                    • “Write the perfect 10-part wedding ceremony” -Medium

                                    • Top tips

                                      • Plan ahead: Collaborate ahead of time with the couple to capture the style, tone and stories they’d like shared. 

                                      • Consider the audience + the setting: Think about the setting and speak to what and who is surrounding you to set the context and importance of the scene.

                                      • Make the logistics easy: Print out your finalized ceremony flow to fit into a nice looking notebook or journal. Tape or glue it in so that you can write in the margins, make notes on where/when to pause, etc. 

                                      • Molly’s top wedding movies (RomComs)?

                                        • How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days (2003)

                                        • She’s the Man (2006)

                                        • Runaway Bride (1999)

                                        • Mikey loves Wedding Crashers (2005) and Palm Springs (2020)

                                        • Walkout song? 

                                          • The groom - Lost in the Dream by War on Drugs

                                          • The bride - Holocene by Bon Iver 

                                          • Molly - Make it Easy by Sylvan Esso (*Molly incorrectly calls this “It’s Playing Now”)

                                          • Mikey - Flash Gordon by Queen OR The Ludlows from Legends of the Fall by James Horner

                                          • 35 min
                                          • #137. TED Talkin’: Why simple messaging is stronger, with Niro Sivanathan

                                            Niro Sivanathan is an organizational psychologist that wants to help your messaging convert clearer, faster and stronger. 

                                            With his 2019 TED Talk, The Counterintuitive way to be more persuasive, Niro goes through several exercises that demonstrate how the “dilution effect” shows up in decision-making and risk-assessment across several types of scenarios. Mikey and Molly dive into his well-paced delivery, less-is-more approach and scientific studies to back it all up. 

                                            For product marketers or anyone wanting to convince someone of something, it’s a useful messaging strategy to put to the test. 


                                            This is an episode for: product marketers, sales folk and anyone that wants to tell more effective messages.


                                            What's in the Spice Cabinet??

                                            Watch Niro’s TED Talk, The Counterintuitive way to be more persuasive

                                            Learn more about Niro’s work

                                            • His site

                                            • LinkedIn

                                            • Niro’s walkout song? (according to Mikey & Molly)

                                              • Alison Krauss - When You Say Nothing At All

                                              • CAKE - Nugget

                                              • Khruangbin - Evan Finds The Third Room

                                              • Do you have a fav TED Talk you’d like to hear broken down?

                                                • Email us!! [email protected]

                                                • 28 min
                                                • #136. Enhancing events through video production—in conversation with Phil Platt of First Sight Media

                                                  Video production and livestreaming are essential parts of any modern event these days—be it a marketing conference, promotional event or university graduation. 

                                                  Phil Platt is a Business Development Manager at UK-based production company First Sight Media and he’s a jack of all trades in the digital production world. With a background in film and cinema technology, Phil is a creative visual storyteller.

                                                  Phil talks to Mikey and Molly about the various ways in which video and digital media can enhance the “story” of any of any event or presentation. Whether it’s a conference, an online webinar or a full video shoot, video and digital media can capture content, expand the event to digital audiences or engage with people. For online presentations especially, this digital engagement can really bring a human element that makes the talk more memorable. 

                                                  Having seen countless presentations (and worked on TEDx events!), Phil shares his hot takes and tips for how to integrate digital media and video production into your presentation or event. 
                                                  This is an episode for: event industry pros, video production nerds and visual storytellers of all kinds.


                                                  What's in the Spice Cabinet?

                                                  Favorite speakers, presenters or TED Talk? 

                                                  • Alan Crickmore - How storytelling helps parents in prison stay connected to their kids

                                                  • Brian Cox - Why we need the explorers

                                                  • Where to find Phil?

                                                    • LinkedIn

                                                    • Check out First Sight Media!

                                                    • Event industry and networking reccos? 

                                                      • The Delegate Wranglers Facebook group

                                                        • The event industry’s most engaged and positive community

                                                        • For networking - check out trade associations like ABPCO

                                                        • Funny presentation stories?

                                                          • When a rockstar reaaaalllly wanted his audio to be as loud as possible and it was…over-the-top.

                                                          • “The biggest horror stories happen when people try and skip out on a little practice session beforehand.”

                                                          • Phil Platt recent film faves?

                                                            • Midsommar (2019)

                                                            • The Running Man (1987)

                                                            • Phil’s walkout song? 

                                                              • Anything by Kublai Khan TX
                                                              • 49 min
                                                              • #135. Lightning Talk Stories from GhostRanch’s StoryCamp 2024

                                                                GhostRanch hosted its third annual StoryCamp this past July, reaching new heights in Park City, Utah. StoryCamp is our annual in-person gathering where we hear from experts, learn from each other to level-up our storytelling skills and just spend nice quality time together. 

                                                                This year’s theme was “More than just a pretty slide”—referring to the idea that presentation design encompasses so much more than simply “pitch polish”. We contribute to clients’ stories and strategic messaging on a regular basis. 

                                                                With this concept in mind, we invited the Rancheros to give their own “Lightning Talks”, 4-8 minute presentations about whatever came to mind for them with this theme.

                                                                The Ranch’s Technical Director Steve Sheets and Senior Designers Tamara Jarvi and Breece Justice join Molly and Mikey to talk about their experience creating and presenting these talks. 

                                                                For designers who are typically behind the slide, it’s such a useful exercise and brings us closer, as always, to “Presentation Excellence”.


                                                                This is an episode for: Strategic messaging nerds, fans of the Ranch and anyone that’s afraid of presenting/public speaking.


                                                                What’s in the Spice Cabinet?? 

                                                                Listen to previous StoryCamp episodes!

                                                                • 2023 StoryCamp Boulder, we talked about the art of presenting to clients with Kerry Feuerman

                                                                • 2022 StoryCamp Chicago - our inaugural StoryCamp started in Chicago with talks from Tamsen Webster & Todd Henry 

                                                                • Need a presentation planning tool?

                                                                  • Download our Pitch Planner, it’s FREEEEEEE

                                                                  • The Slide Zero framework is also very helpful 

                                                                  • Park City Reccos?? 

                                                                    • Tamara says eat at Grappa

                                                                    • Molly says eat at Chimayo 

                                                                    • Hike to Bloods Lake and take a quick cold dip!  

                                                                    • Drink at the oldest distillery in Utah, High West Distillery 

                                                                    • We all enjoyed the Michael Franti & Spearhead concert at Deer Valley Amphitheater, #Togetherness 

                                                                    • What were the crew’s Walkout Songs for their Lightning Talks? 

                                                                      • Breece: Soup by Remi Wolf
                                                                      • Tamara: Disco Snails by Vulfmon
                                                                      • Steve: Seasons (Waiting on You) by Future Islands or Highway Tune by Greta Van Fleet
                                                                      • 42 min
                                                                      • #134. Short-form storytelling with filmmaker Asha Alaji-Sharif

                                                                        Asha Alaji-Sharif is a designer by day and filmmaker by night—or dawn, if she’s getting up early to get a sunrise drone shot. 

                                                                        With several film projects already under her belt, the Atlanta-based creative’s latest is The Four Noble Truths, a film about her brother-in-law, Maeta, with sziocphrenia. It premiered at Voices with Impact Film Festival, a festival focused on mental health and lifting up causes to raise awareness. 

                                                                        Mikey and Molly reunite with Asha (a former Ranchero & friend of the ‘cast) to discuss her creative process, storyboarding and how in the heck one can edit such a rich story in the span of only five minutes. 

                                                                        Asha’s project proves that short films can be a masterclass in concise storytelling, messaging and skillfully conveying stigmatized topics.


                                                                        This is an episode for: people that have to say a lot in a short amount of time, presenters, filmmakers and creatives of all kinds.


                                                                        What’s in the Spice Cabinet?? 

                                                                        Check out more about the Voices with Impact Film Festival!

                                                                        • The film Asha lifts up from this year isn’t publicly available yet but it’s called Brotherly.

                                                                        • Asha’s film, The Four Noble Truths, will also be available soon. :) 

                                                                        • Other filmmakers that inspire Asha?

                                                                          • The Last Black Man in San Francisco - “That film is just stunning.”

                                                                          • Inside Out 2

                                                                          • All-time faves?

                                                                            • Trey Edward Shults - fave director

                                                                              • Waves, It Comes At Night

                                                                              • Where can people find & follow Asha?

                                                                                • Instagram

                                                                                • LinkedIn

                                                                                • What’s your walkout song? 

                                                                                  • Moment - Victoria Monét

                                                                                  • 39 min
                                                                                  • #133. Andrea Tomingas and the art of “information organization”

                                                                                    Andrea Tomingas has a talent for telling one story, many different ways. From being a presentation designer at Hulu to co-founding a business, Andrea offers a unique perspective on presentations. 

                                                                                    Having co-founded Duck Brigade over ten years ago, Andrea knows the importance of communicating a company story well, in a short amount of time. 

                                                                                    Duck Brigade specializes in UX design, landing pages, logos and pitch decks—all various forms of “information organization” as they call it. 

                                                                                    As Andrea walks us through what’s in/out in pitch decks, their ideal pitch deck flow and creating a UX wireframe, we realize that a UX design and pitch deck creation have a lot of useful foundations in common.


                                                                                    This is an episode for: designers of all kinds and anyone that has to pitch.


                                                                                    What's in the Spice Cabinet??

                                                                                    Where to find Andrea?

                                                                                    • Discover their work on Duck Brigade! 

                                                                                    • LinkedIn

                                                                                    • Favorite speakers & presenters?

                                                                                      • “Anyone with a good musicality to their voice”

                                                                                        • Tig Notaro

                                                                                        • Comedians!

                                                                                          • Mae Martin’s “Sap” comedy special on Netflix

                                                                                          • Jerrod Carmichael “Rothaniel” on HBO

                                                                                          • John Early “Now More Than Ever” on HBO

                                                                                          • Improv scene in LA

                                                                                          • Design inspo?

                                                                                            • Stenberg Brothers - poster design team from Russia

                                                                                            • Emory Douglass - designer for the Black Panthers

                                                                                            • Protest ephemera 

                                                                                            • Fave films?

                                                                                              Some recent visually inspiring ones…

                                                                                              • Challengers

                                                                                              • Poor Things

                                                                                              • Denver inspo? 

                                                                                                • Steven J Yazzie at the Denver Art museum

                                                                                                  • He built a tricycle low the ground, got in the tricycle, filmed what he was looking at and biked around landmarks in downtown Denver while sketching the landmarks.

                                                                                                  • Andrea’s walkout song?? 

                                                                                                    • Roadrunner - The Modern Lovers

                                                                                                    • 1 hr 8 min
                                                                                                    • #132. Rad ads, storytelling & the evolution of visual communication: In conversation with Art Novak

                                                                                                      Art Novak is a copywriter, ad guy, author, teacher and an overall presentation design pioneer. 

                                                                                                      We feel lucky to know Art via his teaching days at Savannah College of Art and Design (SCAD) because both Mikey and Allie Wilson, Creative Director at GhostRanch, had the privilege of being in his classroom. 

                                                                                                      Before recording, Art claimed he had a “problematic background” starting most of his presentations in the past with words rather than visuals—he was a copywriter, after all! But learning to evolve his process as technology and different forms of illustration emerged put him at the forefront of creative visual storytelling and he became a true pioneer in leveraging PowerPoint.

                                                                                                      In this episode we explore the common foundations of advertising, presentations and visual storytelling in general. Art shares some amazing and iconic ad stories that he contributed to and how they would later integrate into the way he taught students in the classroom. 


                                                                                                      This is an episode for: design nerds, ad & copywriting enthusiasts and visual storytellers of all kinds.


                                                                                                      What’s in the Spice Cabinet?

                                                                                                      Find more of Art

                                                                                                      • On LinkedIn

                                                                                                      • Read Art’s books! 

                                                                                                        • The Rabbi Wore Bell-bottoms

                                                                                                        • AdJoined: The Destinies of Two Creative Crusaders

                                                                                                        • Favorite assignment Art would give students?

                                                                                                          • When students would have to create a presentation and play the part of a famous advertising character (ie: Pillsbury dough boy, etc.) 

                                                                                                          • Art’s fave places to find inspiration? 

                                                                                                            • AdForum.com - links to all agencies and ads throughout the world! Think of it as an advertising directory 

                                                                                                            • Tune into major award shows like the ADDYs!

                                                                                                            • Hang around inspiring people 🙂

                                                                                                            • How did Art win an Emmy??

                                                                                                              • Helping create a public service ad to raise awareness for wearing seatbelts. Of course.

                                                                                                              • Art’s walkout song?

                                                                                                                • I’m Still Standing by Elton John

                                                                                                                • Parting words for Presentation Nation?

                                                                                                                  I’d encourage everybody that’s thinking about what they want to do with their life to consider copywriting and advertising because I think advertising—you know, it’s gotten a bad rap from some people—but I think it has the potential to really change the world in a better way. 

                                                                                                                  If advertisers start to realize that by promoting worthwhile causes in their advertising, not only are they doing something for humanity but they can distinguish their products from their competition.

                                                                                                                  47 min

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                                                                                                                Mikey and Molly have been beckoned by the gods to become legendary storytellers — a call impossible to refuse. Join our heroes as they dive deep down the rabbit hole, documenting their findings as they scour all industries and disciplines in search of outside insights, inside outlooks, and, well, anything and everything there is to know about the making (and delivery) of better presentations. This is Presentation Thinking™

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