The gang talks to Ben Tarnoff about his book “Internet for the People,” which looks at the present miserable state of the internet “as public utility,” and how it can be made better. But first, we look at a startup back from the dead, think about the on-purpose recession that the global north is about to tip into and (thinking about other recessions), what we can expect, and how the IMF created political monsters it can no longer control.

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