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Ken Klippenstein joins us to discuss his latest piece in The Intercept about how the DHS wants to police “disinformation” and other speech online at the behest of both the Trump and Biden administrations. We wade into the serious risks posed by the agency’s role in monitoring online activity as well as the conversation around how Elon Musk is reshaping Twitter to, in his mind, cater more to “free speech.”You can follow Ken on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein

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