Max Perry Mueller, professor of religious studies and author, joined me in this sweeping interview to discuss his new book, Wakara's America: The Life and Legacy of a Native Founder of the American West, published by Basic Books.

Our discussion covers some of the thematic sweeps and details of Mueller’s incredibly well-written and rich history of the American West and one of its central, oft-forgotten, and overlooked founders, Wakara, intersecting with ecological knowledge and management systems, settler-colonialism, and Mormonism.

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