In November 2022, Frank Pavone was notified by the Vatican that he was “defrocked” and officially removed from the priesthood. As a result, he could no longer be referred to as “Father,” or publicly celebrate Mass in Catholic churches. On today’s edition of Family Talk, Dr. James Dobson and Pavone discuss the implications of his removal, and why he now has a renewed interest and commitment to fight for the sanctity of life. 1 Corinthians 15:58 says, “Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.”