Ben Buchanan and Matt Lloyd. Pivoting Careers, Motion Design, 2D, 3D, Community, Education and more. Both Ben and Matt moved into Motion Design later in their careers. Host Blair Walker discusses the challenges and rewards of doing so. They share how they have done so to become successful freelancers.

**Show Notes:** Compiled by [Matt Lloyd](http://inkmotor.com/)

01.00 - Ben and Matt introduce themselves

03.30 - Ben has been a TA for School Of Motions [Design Bootcamp](https://www.schoolofmotion.com/design-bootcamp)

05.00 - How Ben reached out to [Rich Nosworthy](http://www.richnosworthy.tv/) for tips on what to learn

06.50 - How Ben’s brother’s connection to [Matt Von Trott](http://www.assemblyltd.com/resident/matt-von-trott) eventually landed him a meeting with [Jonny Kofoed](http://www.assemblyltd.com/resident/jonny-kofoed) of Assembly

08.25 - Matt’s biggest mistake early on: not understanding the importance of connecting with people when building a career

09.20 - Motion designers seem to be “falling over themselves” to help each other. [See Matt’s blog about this.](http://inkmotor.com/blog/2014/6/30/why-are-cinema-4d-maestros-so-nice)

12.00 - How doing tutorials can boost your confidence in the early stage of learning motion design

14.00 - [FXPHD](https://www.fxphd.com/) students’ reels tended to stand out because of the emphasis there on creating your their work using techniques they’d learned.

17.00 - How Matt started out learning C4D: [Vertex Pusher](http://www.c4dlounge.eu/forum/showthread.php?t=4691) Hrvoje Srdelic

22.35 - How passion for animation is palpable to people doing the hiring

24.00 - School Of Motions [Animation Bootcamp](https://www.schoolofmotion.com/animation-bootcamp) course

27.00 - Finding the time to work on motion design around having a family

29.10 - Ben’s latest [reel](http://ben.buchanan.io/reel)

33.00 - Ben and Matt talk about their plans for the future

36.30 - Ben is looking to create something “scalable” for the future, so he doesn’t have to be seeking freelance gigs “at 55”

37.16 - **Pro Video Picks:**

[Blender](https://www.blender.org/) which is undergoing a huge upgrade thanks to the [Blender Codequest](https://www.blender.org/2-8/quest/)

For Ben’s picks, see below

39.15- **Inspirational Video:**

[Looking Out My Back Door](https://vimeo.com/97426637) by Ariel Costa

[Forms in Nature](https://vimeo.com/155263612)

[Anchor Inside Out](https://vimeo.com/208039522)

[Cosmos Laundromat](https://gooseberry.blender.org/)

[Jamie XX Gosh](https://youtu.be/WjNssEVlB6M) Official Music Video

41.07 - **Sources of Inspiration:**

Vimeo

Dribble

Mimicry, accents, voices, language

45.06 - **Who should we have on the show?**

[Sean Kennedy](https://openvisualfx.com/)

[Mathijs Luijten](http://www.mathijsluijten.com/)

43.04 - **Follow Lee Online:**

Ben: [Ben.buchanan.io](http://ben.buchanan.io/)

Matt: [twitter](https://twitter.com/printomattic), [inkmotor.com](http://inkmotor.com/)

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