Proclaim

In this episode, Eric and Brett discuss the role of relational trust in evangelization - why it is important, how suspicion plays against trust, and some tips to building trust in our proximate periphery.

1:19 Relational trust is the bond that exists between two people that allows for influence to happen

1:52 The first step towards faith isn't always faith itself but being in a trusted relationship with a believer

3:38 The Church is no longer viewed as the trusted lighthouse for society that it once was

5:02 Suspicion is the opposite of trust

8:43 Relational trust includes all those things that are outside the words of evangelization

8:52 People don't care how much you know unless they know how much you care

11:39 People are more likely to listen to witnesses over teachers, but listen to teachers because they are witnesses.

15:00 Being relevant in people's lives is being present in their moments.

16:25 Alpha as a great way to developing trusting relationships.

19:28 Practical tips to building relational trust: listing to people's story, authentic curiosity, asking open-ended questions, expressing genuine interest.

25:45 Building trust between parents and children who have walked away from faith.

27:40 Parents are the best people to intercede for their children.

28:30 Resource "Praying for your sons and daughters, and those you love, by Vernon Robertson"

31:30 Brett's word of encouragement - the little things are the big things when it comes to building relational trust

31:45 Eric's word of encouragement - you're not alone. We're all learning to build trust. Proclaim is here to help.

In this episode of the Proclaim Podcast Eric Chow continues the conversation with Deacons Raffaele Salvino and Richard Conlin. They discuss their experience with CCO's intentional accompaniment masterclass, prophetic listening, and the need to become great listeners in order to live out our missionary discipleship.

0:50 Evangelii Gaudium 169 The Church will have to initiate everyone – priests, religious and laity – into this “art of accompaniment” which teaches us to remove our sandals before the sacred ground of the other (cf. Ex 3:5). The pace of this accompaniment must be steady and reassuring, reflecting our closeness and our compassionate gaze which also heals, liberates and encourages growth in the Christian life.

3:47 Deacon Richard: What a privilege it is to enter into their lives because the Lord has chosen them and deeply desires to have a relationship with them.

8:30 Discusses their experience of CCO's Intentional Accompaniment masterclass. A way to connect years of formation of seminary into living out the parish life.

You can find CCO's Intentional accompaniment model https://cco.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/CCO-Intentional-Accompaniment-Booklet.pdf

12:02 What were some of the ways you found yourself applying intentional accompaniment in your ministry?

Deacon Richard realized that an email blast wasn't enough. "I needed to reach out to them personally..there has to be intentionality to invitations"

16:30 Deacon Raffaele, we need to be prophetically listening - having one ear to the person and one ear to heaven.

20:45 Deacon Raffaele, What is not prophetic listening - while they're talking, I'm not listening and crafting my apologetic response.

20:40 "By your baptism, you're a prophet. The Lord has got your back!" Deacon Richard

26:30 "If I can be a good listener, then I can be confident that the Holy Spirit can work through me" Deacon Rafaelle

33:56 Christ modeled accompaniment with his disciples, and from there his disciples went on to accompany others. Deacon Raffaele.

35:10 Deacon Raffaele's word of encouragement - Accompaniment is easier than you think.

Deacon Richard's word of encouragement - listen well

Eric's word of encouragement - accompaniment isn't just hanging out, it's also inviting people to deeper discipleship and knowing where to take them.

Take chances, make mistakes, get messy!

Eric Chow has a conversation with Deacon Rafaele Salvino and Deacon Richard Conlin about the impact of relationships in their journey to discipleship and vocation. They discuss why relationships matter and the missionary skill of 'matchmaking': taking God's grace and matching it with people's needs.

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Deacon Richard "Out of that commitment, the intentionality of journeying with someone, our ability to be a disciple came about. You're commiting to a person, it's not a program you're putting someone through, you're not trying to fix someone. You're committing to the person and that relationship brought us here. "

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"Not having it all together is one of the greatest assets that you have (as a missionary disciple) because you're authentic. You're authentically striving to live a life for God, and the people around you see that. They see your flaws and they also see the beauty of that too, so that when you make that appeal to live a life for Christ, it carries so much more weight and authority."

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Some moments of particular interest:

1:19 The story of OLGC, and the origin of Acts XXIX

6:00 How Eucharistic adoration can change everything

9:15 A powerful story of youth dropping their nets (literally)

11:00 Taking a whole parish on retreat with Alpha

15:00 “We all of a sudden had a tool that we could use for the unchurched.”

21:36 The parish staff is the spinal cord of the body, and most parish spinal cords are broken

26:59 The document Unleash the Gospel, and how it animates Acts XXIX

31:38 3 essential principles for transforming the Church

36:19 “Maintenance” in our era equals death

39:29 Why programs don’t convert people

Takeaway quote: “I’m just convinced that exposition (of the Blessed Sacrament) is a wrecking ball.”

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Some moments of particular interest:

10:04 A vision of Jesus, a partial of surrender

12:26 A surprise vocational call, delivered through Scripture and prayer

15:55 (Mary) “I am a testimony of God’s patience and mercy as well.”

18:11 “They spoke the name of Jesus unapologetically. That was something new for me.”

20:47 Learning to pray from (non-Catholic) Christian friends

22:18 Embracing God’s will in a serious illness

25:50 Having someone accompany us in our discipleship

28:00 Avoiding the temptation to let prayer become rote

30:01 “For some reason, I don’t know why, God enjoys my company.”

32:00 “Time is the currency of friendship.” If we are serious about being on mission, we pray

39:40 When the enemy tries to disqualify us after a fall, Jesus restores us

43:19 “There will not be parish renewal without priestly revival.”

Takeaway quote: “If that’s really you, Lord, I need a desire for that. Because I don’t want to do that…

“I woke up two days later with an insatiable desire to be a priest.”

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Some moments of particular interest:

2:55 Finding meaning and purpose in mission

5:18 Living a relationship with Jesus as a day-to-day encounter and a love story

10:00 Conversion involves the whole person

13:08 Staring down a new missionary age

18:16 Remembering where the New Evangelization began: in the heart of God

24:01 If we want to be effective, we have got to get in front of the Lord and just be with him

29:01 From belonging, to belief, to behaving

31:26 We need a kerygmatic revolution in the Church

48:27 We need to retool and reprioritize based on this place we are in at this moment in history

53:30 As a Church, we may need to again earn the right to be heard

Takeaway quote: “Too often in the Catholic Church we're trying to build the building from the 5th floor down. We gotta start from the foundation and build up.”

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Some moments of particular interest:

2:00 A billboard with a spiritual message can really have an impact on your life!

2:55 The loss of a loved one, raising the bigger questions about life

4:52 Realizing that the claims of the Resurrection “had real value to them”

7:54 Reading the apostolic fathers to gain insight into what to believe

10:40 After Confirmation, a different kind of encounter with Jesus

12:22 How did Bishop Scott know God was calling him to be a priest?

Takeaway quote (On baptism in the Spirit): “It was the watershed moment in my life. I encountered the living Christ. The risen Jesus. And that faith that was developed in my head, and was germinating in my head, really found (an) anchor in my heart in that moment. Those hungers, those desires that I was experiencing… they found their source, and their fulfilment.”

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Some moments of particular interest:

1:58 How asking questions can help people unearth their spiritual concerns, experiences, etc.

5:20 What is the difference between pre-evangelization and “just chickening out?”

8:26 Working towards a spiritual environment change

11:11 Figuring out what the Holy Spirit is already doing, and asking how we can help

15:33 All of the baptised have been given charisms that operate in and assist in our evangelization

18:00 Bringing people to an invitation to follow Jesus and letting them decide their own speed

Takeaway quote: You’ll never meet a person for whom God is not already present in some way, whether they know it or not… So you say, “Lord, show me what you are doing.”

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Some moments of particular interest:

4:05 How the Holy Spirit can give us a key question to ask in conversation

6:49 Why the “bridge of trust” is so important

9:31 The prayer of openness, and how the Holy Spirit is already working in people’s hearts

12:48 Never accept a label in place of a story

14:14 Correcting years of personal misperception about God, and the 4 things that keep people Christian

21:05 Breaking the silence in our daily encounters and saying the name of Jesus

Takeaway quote: “You can always ask someone if you can pray for them. Most people won’t turn you down.”

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https://youtu.be/e-QP-XHyrb0