On this episode we interview Mladen Subašić, Chief Product Officer at Bound AI, part of OIP InsurTech.

This episode explores the growing role of AI in modernising insurance operation. Ben and Mladen discuss his journey from behavioural science into product management, the creation of Bound AI and how technology is helping insurers capture unstructured data and build more autonomous processes.

Mladen also shares insights on AI adoption, the differences between the UK and US markets and why trust, accuracy and reliability are key to long-term success.

Want to hear more? Subscribe for more episodes of The Product Leaders Podcast

#ProductManagement #InsurTech #ArtificialIntelligence #ProductLeadership #BoundAI #ProductLeadersPodcast

Special extra episode with Nicholas Goubert. Nicholas is a product leader with over 15 years’ experience in fintech, media and music, location services, mobility and big data. He is also the Co-CEO and Chief Product and Technology Officer at Oceans Technologies Group. Join us as Ben and Nicholas talk about cloud based solutions, digital transformation, being connected, solution verticals and much more!

Follow & Connect with Nicholas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholasgoubert/

Follow & Connect with Ben: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-moulton/

Join the Product Community: ⁠https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community⁠

Visit Orbis: ⁠www.weareorbis.com⁠

Nicolas Averseng, founder of YOOI, joins the podcast to explore how businesses can scale data and AI product management. He details why large organisations need a portfolio approach to data and AI products and how to shift from a project mindset to a true product mindset. Nicolas also talks about how measuring impact goes beyond financial ROI and shares his perspective on the future of AI governance, the evolving role of data leaders, and what companies must get right to succeed.

🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Explore Nicolas’ profile: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community

🔵 Visit Orbis: www.weareorbis.com

In this episode, Ilai Szpiezak, co-founder of Dolphin.ai shares how he built a data product from the ground up, turning customer feedback into actionable insights.He explains how his team uses AI to structure qualitative data, helping businesses make smarter product decisions.Ilai breaks down the differences between launching a marketplace vs. a SaaS product and the challenges that come with each.He also sheds light on why understanding design psychology is crucial for building products people love to use.🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com🔵 Explore Ilai’s profile: www.linkedin.com🔵 Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community🔵 Visit Orbis: www.weareorbis.com

Chandni Kumar, Lead Product Manager for Data & AI at Expedia, joins the podcast to share her journey through data product management across industries.She takes us inside Expedia’s B2B data products, breaking down how they leverage decades of travel data to optimise bookings, forecast demand, and align supply with shifting market trends. Chandni also reflects on the evolution of data product management and explores the challenges of monetising data in a B2B setting and the shift from a product-led to a sales-driven culture.She explains how to secure stakeholder buy-in and highlights the importance of networking, mentorship, and community for career growth in data product management. 🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Explore Chandni’s profile: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community

🔵 Visit Orbis: www.weareorbis.com

Dan Woolcott, Lead Product Manager for Data & Machine Learning at Tesco, takes us inside the world of cybersecurity and AI-driven defence.

Coming from a background in data products at StepStone, he shares what it’s like to pivot into a new industry and offers advice for product managers also looking to transition.

Dan reflects on the balance between AI automation and human judgement, the importance of securing leadership buy-in, and why strong data foundations are key to unlocking innovation.

He also dives into the differences between building for B2B vs. B2C, the challenges of running A/B tests with limited data, and what the next wave of AI-driven data platforms could mean for businesses.

🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Explore Dan’s profile: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community

🔵 Visit Orbis: www.weareorbis.com

Ross Bailey joins the podcast to discuss data product management in financial services, drawing on 20+ years of experience leading multi-billion-dollar product and data portfolios.

He explores how businesses define value in data products, the role of AI governance and compliance, and the challenges of balancing innovation with regulation.

Ross shares insights on iterating on data products, engaging stakeholders, and ensuring reusability while maintaining data integrity and discoverability.

Looking ahead, he discusses the economic and geopolitical risks shaping 2025 and how businesses can leverage data to navigate uncertainty.

🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-moulton/

🔵 Explore Ross’s profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ross-bailey-32a5113/

🔵 Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community

🔵 Visit Orbis: www.weareorbis.com

In this episode, Grant Hodgkinson shares insights into AI and ML product management, drawing from his experience in B2B SaaS and leading cross-functional teams.

He discusses product market fit in AI, the balance between customisation and scalability, and how decision engineers and business leaders collaborate to drive impact.

The conversation explores measuring customer value in AI products, the importance of focus in product strategy, and how Faculty’s fellowship program is shaping the next generation of AI talent.

Grant also offers advice for product managers on simplifying complexity, building strong technical relationships, and maintaining well-being in high-pressure environments.

🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn:Ben Moulton on LinkedIn

🔵 Explore Grant’s profile:Grant Hodgkinson on LinkedIn

🔵 Join the Product Community:community.weareorbis.com

🔵 Visit Orbis:www.weareorbis.com

Kathryn provides effective strategies for skill development and growth within your role, as well as tips for enhancing stakeholder management and communication. We also address the confidence gap and offer practical advice for overcoming it.

Additionally, Kathryn discusses the importance of integrating ethical considerations into your product
decisions and what to look for when hiring senior PMs, along with navigating the trend towards specialisation in product roles.

Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-moulton/

Explore Kathryn’s profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathryn-buckley/

Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-
community

Visit Orbis: https://www.weareorbis.com/

Join me and Deena Shahrabani as we recap a recent event on Data Product Management (DPM), discussing its growing importance in tech.

Deena shares insights from her role at Trainline, where she builds data products that enhance customer engagement.

And I share insights from my day-to-day recruitment in this space, as we both explore the emerging DPM market, and the mindset needed to treat data as a product. We also cover challenges, opportunities, and key takeaways from the event’s panel discussion.

Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-moulton/

Explore Deena’s profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deenarashid/

Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community

Visit Orbis: https://www.weareorbis.com/