In this episode, host Ben Moulton sits down with Michelle Wright, a fractional product leader with a background spanning banking, startups and fintech, for her second appearance on the podcast. Ben and Michelle explore the changing economics of AI and what it means for product teams as the industry shifts from experimentation to real commercial pressure. Michelle shares insights from Little Lenny's, her own AI built passion project, as a live example of how fast individuals can now build and ship.They cover the end of the AI subsidy era, the growing gap between frontier and open source models, and why companies should treat AI cost the same way they treat headcount. They also explore why engineers are seeing faster productivity gains than PMs, and what that means for team ratios and structure.Michelle argues the fundamentals of good product management, framing the right problem, judging value and viability, holding the system view, matter more than ever. She closes with thoughts on organisational redesign and what leaders need to think about over the next 12 to 24 months as AI becomes core to how teams operate.You can connect with Michelle Wright on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellereimanwright/You can also connect with the host, Ben Moulton, on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-moulton/Want to hear more? Subscribe for more episodes of The Product Leaders Podcast.

In this episode, host Ben Moulton sits down with Barbara Carcangiu, VP of Product at NEMO Money, a multi asset investing and trading app operating within a highly regulated environment.

Ben and Barbara explore what it takes to build and scale product teams in fintech, where trust, compliance, and user experience all intersect. Barbara shares her journey from marketing into product leadership, what it was like helping build NEMO from the ground up, and how her role evolved as the product and organisation scaled.

The conversation also dives into balancing speed with structure, avoiding chaos as teams grow, and why great product outcomes depend on building strong systems, clear ownership, and the right culture. Barbara rounds things off with reflections on hiring, developing talent, and the leadership mindset needed to empower teams to deliver real value over time.

You can connect with Barbara Carcangiu on LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbaracarcangiu/

You can also connect with the host, Ben Moulton, on LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-moulton/

Want to hear more? Subscribe for more episodes of The Product Leaders Podcast.

In this episode, host Ben Moulton sits down with Nicole Bianchi, SVP of Product at Chip, the UK based wealth app on a mission to tackle the advice gap. 🎙️Ben and Nicole explore what it’s really like to lead product in fast moving scale ups, from thriving in ambiguity to protecting impact as teams and organisations grow. Nicole shares her journey from early product roles to senior leadership at Chip, lessons learned from working in founder led environments, and how trust and negotiation shape effective product decision making.The conversation also dives into building and scaling product teams, knowing when to hire, and why developing talent internally can be a powerful advantage. Nicole rounds things off by sharing what excites her most about the future of wealth management, the growing role of AI, and the opportunity to solve meaningful problems at scale.You can connect with Nicole Bianchi on LinkedIn:  / nicole-bianchi-01  You can also connect with the host, Ben Moulton, on LinkedIn:  / ben-moulton  Want to hear more? Subscribe for more episodes of The Product Leaders Podcast.

In this episode, host Thai Silvera is joined by Andrew Hungate, Product Lead at Catena Labs.

Together they explore what it actually means to build an AI-native financial institution, and how Catena Labs is designing financial infrastructure for a future where agents, not just humans, become economic actors.

Andrew shares his journey from traditional fintech at Brex into the frontier of agent-first financial services, discussing the transition from established platforms to building in a fast-moving environment where experimentation, speed, and first-principles thinking are critical.

The conversation dives into how financial systems need to evolve for an AI-first world, covering topics such as trust, governance, regulation, and the product challenges behind enabling agent-led transactions safely and at scale.

They also explore where traditional fintech abstractions begin to break, how businesses may adopt agentic workflows over time, and why composability, transparency, and human oversight will be essential as autonomous systems take on greater financial responsibility.

In this episode, host Ben Moulton is joined by Nick Sabharwal, VP of Product at Seekr, alongside Thai Silvera, US Product recruiter at Orbis.
Together they explore the growing importance of trustworthy and explainable AI, and how Seekr is helping organisations build AI systems where transparency, traceability and reliability are critical.
Nick shares his journey from leading AI initiatives at Amazon to building products in a fast moving scale up environment, and the lessons product leaders must learn when moving from big tech into high growth companies.
They also discuss how product management is evolving in the AI era, what differentiates top product leaders, and why technical curiosity, strong communication and cross functional thinking are becoming increasingly important.
Finally, the conversation looks ahead to the future of AI, and why explainability and long term system reliability will become essential as AI becomes embedded in more mission critical environments.
You can connect with Nick Sabharwal on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-sabharwal/
You can also connect with Thai Silvera on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/thai-silvera/
You can also connect with the host, Ben Moulton, on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-moulton/
Want to hear more? Subscribe for more episodes of The Product Leaders Podcast.

On this episode we interview Mladen Subašić, Chief Product Officer at Bound AI, part of OIP InsurTech.

This episode explores the growing role of AI in modernising insurance operation. Ben and Mladen discuss his journey from behavioural science into product management, the creation of Bound AI and how technology is helping insurers capture unstructured data and build more autonomous processes.

Mladen also shares insights on AI adoption, the differences between the UK and US markets and why trust, accuracy and reliability are key to long-term success.

Want to hear more? Subscribe for more episodes of The Product Leaders Podcast

#ProductManagement #InsurTech #ArtificialIntelligence #ProductLeadership #BoundAI #ProductLeadersPodcast

Special extra episode with Nicholas Goubert. Nicholas is a product leader with over 15 years’ experience in fintech, media and music, location services, mobility and big data. He is also the Co-CEO and Chief Product and Technology Officer at Oceans Technologies Group. Join us as Ben and Nicholas talk about cloud based solutions, digital transformation, being connected, solution verticals and much more!

Follow & Connect with Nicholas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholasgoubert/

Follow & Connect with Ben: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-moulton/

Join the Product Community: ⁠https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community⁠

Visit Orbis: ⁠www.weareorbis.com⁠

Nicolas Averseng, founder of YOOI, joins the podcast to explore how businesses can scale data and AI product management. He details why large organisations need a portfolio approach to data and AI products and how to shift from a project mindset to a true product mindset. Nicolas also talks about how measuring impact goes beyond financial ROI and shares his perspective on the future of AI governance, the evolving role of data leaders, and what companies must get right to succeed.

🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Explore Nicolas’ profile: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community

🔵 Visit Orbis: www.weareorbis.com

In this episode, Ilai Szpiezak, co-founder of Dolphin.ai shares how he built a data product from the ground up, turning customer feedback into actionable insights.He explains how his team uses AI to structure qualitative data, helping businesses make smarter product decisions.Ilai breaks down the differences between launching a marketplace vs. a SaaS product and the challenges that come with each.He also sheds light on why understanding design psychology is crucial for building products people love to use.🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com🔵 Explore Ilai’s profile: www.linkedin.com🔵 Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community🔵 Visit Orbis: www.weareorbis.com

Chandni Kumar, Lead Product Manager for Data & AI at Expedia, joins the podcast to share her journey through data product management across industries.She takes us inside Expedia’s B2B data products, breaking down how they leverage decades of travel data to optimise bookings, forecast demand, and align supply with shifting market trends. Chandni also reflects on the evolution of data product management and explores the challenges of monetising data in a B2B setting and the shift from a product-led to a sales-driven culture.She explains how to secure stakeholder buy-in and highlights the importance of networking, mentorship, and community for career growth in data product management. 🔵 Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Explore Chandni’s profile: www.linkedin.com

🔵 Join the Product Community: https://community.weareorbis.com/the-product-community

🔵 Visit Orbis: www.weareorbis.com