UnHerd's Freddie Sayers talks with Professor of Economic Policy at the University of Oxford, Sir Dieter Helm, about the great climate "self-delusion." As global leaders, royals, and celebrities jet into Rio for the 30th UN Climate Summit (COP 30), Helm - one of the world's most respected climate economists - argues the entire Net Zero project, championed by the very elites at the summit, is built on smoke and mirrors, and reveals: why 30 years of COPs have been ineffective; the core deceit politicians have been telling the public for decades; how the West's green policies are actually helping China while leading to our own self-sabotage; and why the UK's "clean energy" dream is a fantasy that is leading to economic ruin. What is the real path forward, and is it too late to fix the mess we've made?

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