On this episode, Jamarl and I have a brief, but important dialogue about UFOs. We get into whether or not there is a there there to this topic, the difficulty people have accepting this as a part of their reality, our lack of agency in all this, plus so much more.

This week Zac is joined by fellow Washingtonian, musician, and all around bad-ass, Andra Dare. They discuss everything from why Andra got interested in the UAP/UFO topic, to Andra flipping the script and interviewing Zac about his personal experiences.

I am joined by Ross Coulthart, investigative journalist and author of In Plain Sight: An Investigation Into UFOs and Impossible Science.

We discuss why the UFO/UAP story is one that wanted to be told, the stigma that prevents more journalists from looking, the 1966 Westall UFO incident, The Wilson Memo, and SO much more.

This week I am joined by the founder of Paradigm Research Group, Stephen Bassett. We discuss the problem with skeptics, conviction VS belief, the truth embargo, why Stephen feels we are finally on the cusp of true Disclosure, and much more.

I talk to Tom Rogan and Lt. Tim McMillan about why they are 99% certain that some UAP are not man made.

I had hundreds of questions for Lue that I had to condense down quite a bit out of respect for his time, but I think we covered a lot of ground. We get into some of my concerns about conspiracy culture, to what extent AATIP investigated the famous Nimitz 2004 incident, UFOs & Nukes, baiting UFOs, his feelings on former AFOSI agent Richard Doty, and so much more.

I am joined by UFO researcher David Marler to discuss what drew Marler into this topic, why he chooses to focus on Triangular UFOs, the value of skepticism, the problem of time when it comes to sifting through so many files, and much more.

I sat down to chat with filmmaker Clay Tweel about his Heaven's Gate miniseries on HBO Max. We get into what drew him to the story of Heaven’s Gate, how his presentation of this story provides a window into the minds of those who found themselves wrapped up in Marshall Applewhite and Bonny Lu Nettles teachings, the importance of understanding why these 39 people were so willing to take their lives in 1997, parallels between cult behavior and Trumpism, and much more.

We discuss what motivates him to debunk conspiracies, how we should think about the people who believe in them, and we explore the culpability of Donald Trump in current events playing out. We also touch on free will, and how having faith — and then losing it — can inoculate you from succumbing to cults and conspiracies.

In this conversation we get into what got Chris interested in scientifically taboo subjects. We talk about the issues with the Bob Lazar case, the problems inherent in UFOlogical studies. We discuss his work with Sky Hub, an open source startup with a science-based approach to studying unidentified aerial phenomenon. And finally, we debate a little bit on the pros and cons of Government Disclosure on the UFO topic.