The Pugwash inquiry is concerned here with a proposal to brighten clouds over Hudson Bay, retaining some ice year round. The experts here are Alan Gadian, Stephen Salter, Michael Diamond, Paul Beckwith, Peter Wadhams. The consider the challenging problem of estimating the effectiveness of this intervention. Much of the complexity results from the dynamics of the multiple factors -- the way the clouds of different altitudes react differently, the impact of water vapor, altitude, temperature, the changing amount of light in different seasons, etc. Although the mathematical modeling gives a specific prediction, it may be necessary to check it with a real-life experiment, and we have to decide whether Hudson Bay is the best place to carry out such an experiment. For the video, audio podcast, transcript, and comments: https://tosavetheworld.ca/episode-529-clouds-and-climate.