We speak with Vicky Osterweil about the birth of policing, the colonial history underpinning modern property relations, and why riots and looting are so often dismissed as political tactics.

Vicky is the author of In Defense of Looting: A Riotous History of Uncivil Action (Bold Type, 2020) - https://www.boldtypebooks.com/titles/vicky-osterweil/in-defense-of-looting/9781645036678/

and host of Cerise and Vicky Rank the Movies - https://soundcloud.com/ceriseandvicky

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