This episode comes to you from the Animals & Society Institute conference in the US. I speak to Catherine Doyle. Catherine is Director of Science, Research & Advocacy with Performing Animal Welfare Society (PAWS).

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Again, this recording was made in suboptimal conditions. Please forgive the background noise!