Episode Title: Professor Tim Spector Chats with Dr Vanessa Kimbell about Bread, Health, and Social Justice
Episode Description:
In this thought-provoking episode, Dr Vanessa Kimbell and Tim are hiding out in the basement of Daunt books chatting just before Tim's book launch. Tim and Vanessa have known each other many years and Tim bakes his Sourdough as a lifestyle Medicine approach to Bread. Tim is the world's leading microbiome scientist and in this episode Vanessa asks him about his thought on the role of bread in our health, our culture, and our future.
Vanessa and Tim have dived into Bread many times inclusion on the Zoe Podcast on Bread.
Tim share more on real impact of bread on blood sugar, the gut microbiome, and social equity. Professor Spector reflects on his personal experience baking BALM bread at home – drawing on Spanish influences and his own journey with baking as lifestyle medicine – while also offering a clear-eyed look at the reality of our current food system.
Topics include:
How Tim’s blood sugar responds to different kinds of bread – and why fibre, fermentation and ingredients matter deeply
The health benefits of rye and diversity in the diet over a lifetime
Bread as both a major source of fibre – and an overlooked contributor to chronic illness when ultra-processed
Vanessa’s bold proposal for legislation to protect public health from mass-produced, ultra-processed bread
A playful exchange around utopian ideals and corporate responsibility, including Tim’s suggestion of adding health warnings to industrial loaves
Highlighted is the enormous disparity in bread pricing – and what that says about health inequality
How easy and empowering it can be to bake your own bread, and why BALM offers a practical, evidence-based path to nourishment
This is a generous and encouraging conversation between two of the most influential voices in bread, gut health and nutrition. Tim offers both critique and hope explaining to listeners that you can bake at home - even as busy as his is ( Vanessa dedicated the 10 minute Sourdough School book to Tim from a previous humorous exchange form man-years earlier) , bread can be medicine, community, and justice in every slice.
Whether you're a healthcare professional, baker, policymaker or someone simply trying to eat better, this episode will leave you informed, inspired, and ready to see bread in a whole new light.
Here is a recipe for Tim Spectors Zoe Bread.