Kaliya welcomes her long-time colleague and frequent collaborator Jim to talk about his history at the front-line of identity management through today. From the Tru.net site: "In many domains, starting with the COVID-19 crisis, the world literally needs a new way of “thinking together”, a new way of collaboratively engaging in a deliberative process, where content can be traced to its source, information has real accountability, and we can choose what to disseminate across society-at-large. As the realization of the need for this burst into the mainstream, it became clear that a general network solution is needed by all organizations, not just for climate, and Tru was born.