Caine Tighe, CTO of Privacy Company Duck Duck Go joins us from Montana to talk about the evolution of DDG from search engine to privacy company and educator.  We talk about trust, and how they have managed to build and scale trust over a distributed company of almost 100 people over the past decade.  How consumer attitudes to privacy have shifted.  How they  make money without tracking anybody.  "Serve, dont surveil!" How DDG searches have grown 17% since the start of the pandemic.  Privacy and the emergence of contact tracing.  The future of privacy and anonymity as it relates to password managers, VPNs, and more.  How in the end, it just needs to work for consumers and not become more friction than its worth.  What is at stake with the loss of privacy and how the Snowden revelations was DDG's breakthrough moment.  

Kaliya and Seth talk amongst themselves about this week in privacy, surveillance and anonymity.  How every day is the same day, and how we are breaking up the zoom brain dead zones to create some novelty in our lives.

Pavel joins us from Europe to discuss what one should, and more importantly what one should not, share about themselves online.  He suggests some very clear action items for all of us in terms of turning off location tracking and auto app refreshes on our iPhones, deleting our social media accounts, and using different fake names for all of our accounts.  He and Seth talk about how they met and came to found Spartacus.  Kaliya updates us on the latest from her Internet Identity Workshop held virtually last week.  And Seth tries to connect the dots between privacy, next generation credit bureaus, private keys and self-sovereign identity.  We refer to this article about "The Scoring of America" that the FTC published in 2014.

Antti Jogi Poikola from MyData joins PSA podcast to talk about his upcoming, comprehensive paper on personal data operators https://mydata-global.org/operator-white-paper.  We talk about balancing fear vs greed when it comes to privacy and personal data monetization, as well as Jogi's own evolution from thinking about data advocacy in terms of privacy towards a more utilitarian perspective.