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-Corbert de Ronde (Cobe) chats with Kickboxing Coach and Glory Kickboxing Referee Youssef Akhnikh.

-They discuss the success of Kickboxing in the Netherlands, it's growth in other European countries, and the success of Glory Kickboxing fighters in MMA.

-They also discuss what it's like to be a Referee in Combat Sports, and some of the most difficult situations they deal with.

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Intro music by Dave Misener