PSYCHOCINEMATIC

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Welcome to hell. A family is falling the fuck apart, in the most distressing way. Toni Colette wishes she was back in Porpoise Spit at this point. We are of course, unpacking the traumatizing debut from Ari Aster, Hereditary (2018).

We talk in depth about how Ari portrays grief, PTSD and family attachments, but also make it horror? As well as start to question his choices in how he portrays and utilises disability in his films. Is he exploitative? Do we love Ari or do we hate him? Can it be both?

Some little refs include Alec With Pen (Haunted House Husband) and the regularly referenced and beloved You’re Wrong About (here is the start of the Michelle Remembers arc). (It is Sarah Marshall not Marsh sorry!)

CONTENT WARNING: Death of a child, ableism, decapitation, PTSD, traffic accident, suicide, self harm, disability used as horror, discussion of visual gore, drug use, violence, dead animals, cults, demon possession, witchcraft, child sexual abuse

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Michael Watson

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

References!

HORROR AND DIAGNOSIS: ON ARI ASTER 

Hereditary and the Changeling Myth | Horror Movie 

Exploring Depictions of Disability in 2018 Horror Movies 

‘Hereditary’ Filmmaker Ari Aster Answers Burning Questions (Spoilers) 

'Hereditary': Milly Shapiro wants to freak you out as that creepy kid 

'Hereditary' star Milly Shapiro responds to criticism about her appearance  

‘Hereditary,’ Mad Horror, And Representation Of Mental Illness 

Important questions asked by new horror movie 'Hereditary' - UGA Today

Hideous Progeny: Disability, Eugenics, and Classic Horror Cinema on JSTOR

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Here is part 2 bbs! 

In this episode, Maz gets political, which means she does smoke a lot in the recording. She also does the best impression of Chet Hanks I've ever heard. 

We talk about the myriad of terrible stereotypes this movie highlights, and of course the harmful message not only to people with intellectual impairments, but to the American people who were about to vote in the 1994 election. This is a disability/mental health podcast, but sometimes we need to digress!

Special thanks to You’re Wrong About podcast for coining the term “it was capitalism all along”, we love you v much. 

CONTENT WARNING: Ableism, substance use and dependence, suicide, self harm, war, PTSD, death at war, historical views on intellectual impairment, HIV related illness and death, racism, a few swears.

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Maz Fornasier

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematicor join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast) or email us at [email protected]!

Sling us a buck on our patreon!: https://www.patreon.com/psychocinematic 

References:

• Onstage Blog "What About Forrest Gump" and Other Bad Opinions on Disability in Arts & Culture

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Today, Maz and I discuss THE FILM of 1994 (because the academy inappropriately sidelined Pulp Fiction), directed by Robert Zemeckis and written by Eric Roth. Part 1 starts to unravel some of the reasons why you probably shouldn’t love this movie including how the character of Forrest was developed, its depiction of disability, and how it trivializes events of American history.

Tomorrow you’ll get part 2 when we delve into stereotypes and whether the film made a positive or negative impact on the world. It's very POLITICAL. Best listened to with a box of chocolates, I guess?

That podcast Steph was referring to is Nice White Parents (New York Times).

CONTENT WARNING: Ableism, substance use and dependence, suicide, self harm, war, PTSD, death at war, historical views on intellectual impairment, HIV related illness and death, bias against long hair on men

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Maz Fornasier

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematicor join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast) or email us at [email protected]!

Sling us a buck on our patreon!: https://www.patreon.com/psychocinematic 

References:

• Onstage Blog "What About Forrest Gump" and Other Bad Opinions on Disability in Arts & Culture

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Episode 13 focuses on Oscar nomm’d play adaptation The Father (2020). A unique exploration into the real life experience of dementia and life as a carer, it picked up best adapted screenplay (Florian Zeller adapting his own play) and best actor for Anthony Hopkins. Join us as we discuss how accurate the depiction may actually be, and how much we would like to be a best friend with Florian Zeller.

p.s. Michael was nursing a total of 5 kidney stones at the time, hence he’s a little quieter than usual. He does a lot of things for love

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Simpsons part 2 is here! For our second part of episode 12, special guest Nathan Phillips and Steph look at the two episodes Moaning Lisa (Season 1 episode 6) and Fear of Flying (Season 6 episode 11), the stereotypes of the Simpsons and how they evolved (or devolved), and how these episodes shaped our understanding of mental illness. Is Bart society?? Should Maggie be at a jazz club or should she be in bed?? Find out now!

Also this is actually what "Loewenstein" is from, and it is hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POqV7gjuCiY 

Follow Nathan at @startstowearmedown on Instagram or twitter https://twitter.com/dustybooks , read more of his thoughts on music, movies and life at dusty-books.com , and get his newsletter at https://letterboxd.com/dustybooks/

CONTENT WARNING: Panic attacks and anxiety symptoms, phobia of flying, discussion of plane crashes, depression, coercive control, mental illness stigma, verbal/emotional abuse, misogyny/toxic masculinity/shit husbandry, homophobia/transphobia

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Nathan Phillips

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic or join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast) or email us at [email protected]!

Check out our special music episode by becoming a Patron!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic

REFERENCES!:

They Shoot Lambeths Don't They?: How 'Moaning Lisa' Tackled Depression and it's Outcomes

The Andrew Blog: How 'Moaning Lisa' Learns to Make Something Out of Sadness

"The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History" by John Ortved

Talking Simpsons Interview with Mimi Pond

Neil Tesser's interview with Matt Groening in Playboy, 1990 

Matt Groening Interview with The Advocate

The gay lifestyle magazine featuring Smithers (GENRE, not Out, apologies!), published March 1996.

Academy of Television Art and Science’s five hour interview with James L. Brooks (not Museum of Television and Radio as cited in show sorry!)

Marc Maron’s interview with Sam Simon

1995 interview with David Mirkin 

Recent and rare extensive interview with legendary original simpsons write John Schwartzwelder

Longtime supervising director David Silverman's Twitter (https://twitter.com/tubatron) is an excellent source of information and he is very forthcoming with answering general production questions.

DSM classifications for Specific Phobia

DSM 3- TR Major Depressive Disorder 

Audio commentaries, scripts and deleted scenes on the commercial DVD sets of Season 1 and Season 6.

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Here we are in the Simpsons universe!

For our first part of episode 12, special guest Nathan Phillips and Steph look at the two episodes Moaning Lisa (Season 1 episode 6) and Fear of Flying (Season 6 episode 11), the history of the early Simpsons, and how accurate we believe their depictions of mental illness and therapy are, with a bit of our own experience thrown in. Nathan is a walking Simpsons encyclopedia living in North Carolina and Steph was banned from the Simpsons as a kid and has suffered as a result.

Follow Nathan at @startstowearmedown on Instagram or twitter https://twitter.com/dustybooks , read more of his thoughts on music, movies and life at dusty-books.com , and get his newsletter at https://letterboxd.com/dustybooks/

CONTENT WARNING: Panic attacks and anxiety symptoms, phobia of flying, discussion of plane crashes, depression, coercive control, mental illness stigma, suicide, misogyny/toxic masculinity/shit husbandry, homophobia/transphobia

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Nathan Phillips

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic or join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast) or email us at [email protected]!

Check out our special music episode by becoming a Patron!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic

REFERENCES!:

They Shoot Lambeths Don't They?: How 'Moaning Lisa' Tackled Depression and it's Outcomes 

The Andrew Blog: How 'Moaning Lisa' Learns to Make Something Out of Sadness 

"The Simpsons: An Uncensored, Unauthorized History" by John Ortved 

Talking Simpsons Interview with Mimi Pond 

Neil Tesser's interview with Matt Groening in Playboy, 1990 

Matt Groening Interview with The Advocate 

The gay lifestyle magazine featuring Smithers (GENRE, not Out, apologies!), published March 1996. 

Academy of Television Art and Science’s five hour interview with James L. Brooks (not Museum of Television and Radio as cited in show sorry!) 

Marc Maron’s interview with Sam Simon 

1995 interview with David Mirkin 

Recent and rare extensive interview with legendary original simpsons write John Schwartzwelder 

Longtime supervising director David Silverman's Twitter (https://twitter.com/tubatron) is an excellent source of information and he is very forthcoming with answering general production questions.

DSM classifications for Specific Phobia 

DSM 3- TR Major Depressive Disorder 

Audio commentaries, scripts and deleted scenes on the commercial DVD sets of Season 1 and Season 6.

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Thanks for your patience lucky ducks, bet you were chomping at the bit to finish this episode! Here it is, PART 2 OF 2!

Brother of the podcast and editor Nic Fornasier joins Steph as they explore the dysfunctional family opus, The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), directed by Wes Anderson and written by Wes and Owen Wilson.

Together they ask the question, can narcissistic dads who abandon their kids make up for the resulting trauma? And if so does this movie portray this situation with nuance and respect? There is literally no way of knowing, except to listen to this episode, in two parts!

Part 2 focuses on the stereotypes and Wes-isms the movie portrays and perpetuates and whether it is done harmfully or helpfully!

CONTENT WARNING: Suicide, substance use and addiction (including personal experiences), depression, self harm, childhood emotional manipulation and neglect, cancer, discussions of sexual content, sex shaming, death of a family member, death of a dog, incest??

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost and editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic or join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast)

Email us: [email protected]

Buy us a coffee by becoming a Patron!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic

Listen to the Just the Gist podcast live show Steph attended at https://www.listnr.com/podcasts/just-the-gistand listen to Why Are Dads' podcast's take on the same movie at https://www.stitcher.com/show/why-are-dads 

ARTICLES REFERENCED: 

Vulture: How Wes Anderson Made the Royal Tenenbaums 

Screen Rant: 10 behind the scenes facts about the Royal Tenenbaums 

Abilene Christian University: Who's Your Daddy?: A Psychological Analysis of Father-Son Relationships in Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums

Little White Lies: How Wes Anderson’s families helped me recover from the breakdown of my own

University of Rhode Island: When the alternative becomes hegemonic: A textual analysis of the Royal Tenenbaums  

The Dissolve: The Royal Tenenbaums forum: Failure, depression, and other varieties of family fun

The Jugular: The Psychology of Failure: The Royal Tenenbaums, Melancholy and Growing Pains

On Psychology and Neuroscience: The Life Psychotic with Wes Anderson 

One Room With A View: The Royal Tenenbaums And The Art Of Tragicomedy 

Screen Queens: #CriterionMonth: The sexist portrayal of Margot Tenenbaum in Wes Anderson’s the Royal Tenenbaums. 

Flipscreened: The Wes Dispatch #3: Trauma, Grief and Accepting Help in ‘The Royal Tenenbaums

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PART 1 OF 2!

Brother of the podcast and editor Nic Fornasier joins Steph as they explore the dysfunctional family opus, The Royal Tenenbaums (2001), directed by Wes Anderson and written by Wes and Owen Wilson.

Together they ask the question, can narcissistic dads who abandon their kids make up for the resulting trauma? And if so does this movie portray this situation with nuance and respect? There is literally no way of knowing, except to listen to this episode, in two parts!

Part 1 focuses on the various mental illnesses of the Tenenbaum family and how they relate to Nic and Steph's own lives. Part 2 will be delivered to you on Friday 16th April. Enjoy!

CONTENT WARNING: Suicide, substance use and addiction (including personal experiences), depression, self harm, childhood emotional manipulation and neglect, cancer, discussions of sexual content, death of a family member, death of a dog, incest??

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost and editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic or join our facebook group (search for Psychocinematic Podcast)

Email us: [email protected]

Buy us a coffee by becoming a Patron!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic

Listen to the Just the Gist podcast live show Steph attended at https://www.listnr.com/podcasts/just-the-gist and listen to Why Are Dads' podcast's take on the same movie at https://www.stitcher.com/show/why-are-dads  

ARTICLES REFERENCED: 

Vulture: How Wes Anderson Made the Royal Tenenbaums 

Screen Rant: 10 behind the scenes facts about the Royal Tenenbaums 

Abilene Christian University: Who's Your Daddy?: A Psychological Analysis of Father-Son Relationships in Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums

Little White Lies: How Wes Anderson’s families helped me recover from the breakdown of my own

University of Rhode Island: When the alternative becomes hegemonic: A textual analysis of the Royal Tenenbaums  

The Dissolve: The Royal Tenenbaums forum: Failure, depression, and other varieties of family fun

The Jugular: The Psychology of Failure: The Royal Tenenbaums, Melancholy and Growing Pains

On Psychology and Neuroscience: The Life Psychotic with Wes Anderson 

One Room With A View: The Royal Tenenbaums And The Art Of Tragicomedy 

Screen Queens: #CriterionMonth: The sexist portrayal of Margot Tenenbaum in Wes Anderson’s the Royal Tenenbaums. 

Flipscreened: The Wes Dispatch #3: Trauma, Grief and Accepting Help in ‘The Royal Tenenbaums

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For our TENTH episode, Maz Fornasier joins us again as we dissect the ethereal adolescent world of The Virgin Suicides (1999) directed by Sofia Coppola and based on the novel by Jeffrey Eugenides. Listen as Maz and I explain our journey of love and hate of the film, and how it’s narration through the male gaze causes some problematic influence on the audience. BIG trigger warning, as we discuss suicide at length. (It’s also the title of the film).

Apologies to the audience for the weird sound quality today, and to Eugene Levy for everything.

CONTENT WARNING: Suicide, abuse and neglect, seclusion and containment, suicide, sex shaming, depression. Suicide.

PLEASE ALSO NOTE: Maz and I at times use the words “successful attempt” and “completed suicide” when discussing suicide. These terms stem from judgmental connotations and are to be avoided. We get it wrong sometimes and we apologize. We will aim to replace these words with neutral terms such as “suicidal behaviour” and “fatal suicide” when discussing these in future. 

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Maz Fornasier

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Find us on instagram, twitter and facebook @psychocinematicpodcast and join our patreon!

ARTICLES REFERENCED

Huffpost: Kirsten Dunst talks rehab

Oh! You pretty things: Imagine, emotion and the feminine sublime in Sofia Coppola's The Virgin Suicides

Film and Fishnet: The matyrdom of the Lisbon Sisters

Little White Lies: Girlhood and sexual repression in The Virgin Suicides and The Beguiled

The Guardian: Families in literature: The Lisbons in The Virgin Suicides by Jeffrey Eugenides 

The Guardian: Sofia Coppola on making The Virgin Suicides: 'When I saw the rough cut I thought: Oh no, what have I done?

The Guardian: The Virgin Suicides at 20: Sofia Coppola's debut continues to haunt

Fighting Pressure from Both Sides: Gender and Feminism in the Virgin Suicides

The Simple Cinephile: The Virgin Suicides: ‘Girls Are Just Women in Disguise

Vulture: 25 Years Ago The Virgin Suicides Kicked Off the American Obsession With Teenage Tragedy

The Atlantic: Why The Virgin Suicides Is Still So Resonant Today

Literary Hub: Does The Virgin Suicides Hold Up 25 Years Later?

Scout: The sixth Lisbon: On having a ‘Virgin Suicides’ phase, and romanticizing mental illness

Bright Wall/ Dark Room: Issue 62: Body Woman is the Loneliest Creature: Growing up with The Virgin Suicides

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Welcome to Ep 9 and a new naming convention!!

Today we cover 2016’s Me Before You. In this episode, Michael takes the lead and goes ahead and writes a whole motherfucking university essay on the subject of disability and voluntary assisted dying. He goes on quite a journey of understanding as to why this movie, directed by Thea Sharrock and based on the novel by Jojo Moyes, is a pile of steaming offensive ableist trash. “On the nose” doesn’t cover a sliver of it. Please note that we speak as able bodied people and let us know if we able-splain at any point!

Also, Myffy is our cat.

CONTENT WARNING: Voluntary assisted dying, euthanasia, ableism, traffic injury, suicide, depiction of disability as tragedy, sex, horse racing.

NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!

Host: Stephanie Fornasier

Cohost: Michael Watson

Music and artwork: Michael Watson

Editor: Nicholas Fornasier

Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram!: psychocinematicpodcast and Twitter!: twitter.com/psychocinematic

Email us: [email protected]

Get special exclusive content by becoming a Patreon subscier including our Livestream watch of Sia's movie "Music"!: www.patreon.com/psychocinematic 

REFERENCE ARTICLES: (Some have a paywall, email us if you’re keen for a copy!)

“Assisted dying and disability” by Christopher Riddle

“It’s all the same movie: making Code of The Freaks” by Carrie Sandahl

“Quadraplegic Sexuality: Demystifying Misconceptions” by Gerald Christian.

"Attitudes towards disability in society viewed through the lens of critical disability theory: An analysis of ‘Me Before You’" by Esther Ingham

"Me Before You – disability as a tragedy and the laughing able gaze" by Carly Findlay

(And read all the articles she links to!)