This week, Kelly and JJ are still chatting about Archetypes with a discussion of Cataclysm and Survival Stories. These narratives highlight humankind's innate resourcefulness and desire to survive. We're the cockroaches of the universe!

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

Hey guys! Our apologies for the late episode; while JJ is working on revising SHADOWSONG Kelly is taking over editing duties, and her technical ineptitude, plus ancient equipment, plus mercury in retrograde all conspired against us. Thanks for your patience! This week we're talking about some of our favorite core narratives: Redemption and Revenge.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

This week Kelly and JJ continue their Summer of Archetypes with HEIST NARRATIVES. We're cheating a bit as Heist Narratives are really more of a plot construction than an ARCHETYPE, per se, but we wanted to talk about movies and stories we love! Also a tangent into the adventure genre of story, a la Indiana Jones, and...a lot of Nic Cage's filmography.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

This week JJ and Kelly discuss Robin Hood-type narratives, or The Oppressed vs. the Oppressor. As per usual, it is tangent heavy on other things we like (plus JJ is loopy from Too Much People-ing), like the Trickster archetype. Also JJ reveals her unfounded bias against Dan Stevens.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

This week Kelly and JJ (with surprise guest Beth Revis, New York Times bestselling author of the Across the Universe trilogy and Star Wars: Rebel Rising) continue their Summer of Archetypes series with ROMANCE NARRATIVES. If the conversation is a bit incoherent this week, it's because JJ is—once again—podcasting from the road (this time San Diego Comic-Con). Kelly and JJ discuss their favorite types of romances and whether or not romantic narratives fall into a Conflict-based narrative or an Evolution-based narrative. Also, lots of tangents this week, sorry!

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

This week JJ and Kelly continue their Summer of Archetypes series with The Fatal Flaw! Some museum recommendations! Hamilton also makes a reappearance!

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

This week Kelly and JJ kick off their Summer of Archetypes with The Chosen One. What constitutes a Chosen One narrative? What are some examples? What are examples of a subverted Chosen One? CAN you truly subvert a Chosen One narrative? Also, our gripes with the TV show LOST.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

This week JJ and Kelly run another query critique podcast! The quality of the submissions were pretty high all around, so barring a few nitpicks, we encourage y'all to keep querying! Also, lots and lots of fangirling over the Netflix original show GLOW.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

This week, Kelly and JJ give a little overview about archetypes, stereotypes, and cliches to kick off their Summer of Archetypes. What is the difference between all of these things? Also, they answer a few questions and give (probably unsolicited) advice on how to become more civically engaged in the US political process.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com

JJ and Kelly are back with an evergreen topic: queries! We revisit query letters and what makes them successful. There's also a long tangent about tropes and singing the praises of homemade cold press coffee.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit publishingcrawl.com