“One of the big debates in the leadership of digital transformation is the merits of a ‘big bang’ strategic program versus a more tactical, incremental approach,” says the Victorian Department of Health and Human Services’ (DHHS) Chief Information Officer and IPAA Victoria Fellow, Dr Steve Hodgkinson. IPAA Victoria’s Public Sector Perspectives interviewed top 50 CIO, Dr Hodgkinson to discuss his views toward organisational transformation. COVID-19 has refocused attention on the power of digital tools to transform the public sector, so what does that actually mean and what is really possible? Listen to Dr Hodgkinson’s podcast of Public Sector Perspectives in which he reveals why he’s a digital pragmatist and why the concept of ‘digital fitness’ is crucial in the creation and adoption of new digital systems.