Ward and Tyler talk to Evi about what makes a ‘scene,’ what ethical and sustainable community support looks like, and why ‘management’ doesn’t need to be a dirty word for artists. Evi plays ‘Sugar Cane Paper’ from the Dutch Martins LP, ‘1939.’

Ward and Tyler talk to Justin about DIY ethics, touring to SxSW, and athleisure. Justin performs the new Glazed track, “New York City.”

Amelia performs Horrible Girl and the Hot Mess track, “Club Sammich” and talks pronoun etiquette, tokenism in the art scene, and attempts to sway Tyler to team ‘MCR Is The Best Emo Band’ with her bandmate Wayne.

Ward and Tyler talk to El about pop music, non-monogamous relationships, and the phrase “I liked their older stuff better.” El performs ‘My Friend Ben Says Love’s Not Real’ from Sleepless’ EP, ‘Let’s Just Be Friends.’

Ward and Tyler talk to Luis about genre branding, scene politics on mixed-bills, and atheism. Luis performs an untitled SPORK track.

In a test run for the podcast, Ward and Nico interview Tyler. Tyler plays ‘Merrily, Merrily,” an unreleased Holed-Outs track.