At the International AIDS Conference in Durban, South Africa, Benjamin interviewed Cianán Russell, a trans man who ran the only session in the conference program focused on transmasculine folk. Starting from a discussion of how the session came together, Cianán touches on misogyny among gay men, the complications of identity politics, male sexual entitlement, the need for men to explore vulnerability, and more.

CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault.

Sections of the interview were published in Star Observer: http://www.starobserver.com.au/news/aids-conference-2016-trans-men-navigating-the-politics-of-misogyny-in-gay-spaces/151122