What happens when your brain won't cooperate but you refuse to stop living anyway?
This conversation feels personal in more ways than I expected.
I laughed so hard my face hurt. We cried together too. And somewhere between stories about panic attacks, people being chased by pigs, depression, ADHD, hula hoops, taxidermy, rainbow fountains, and hiding under tables, something beautiful happened.
The #1 New York Times bestselling author Jenny Lawson (The Bloggess) joined me for one of the most honest conversations I've ever had on Quick Before You Forget.
Together we talked about anxiety, depression, creativity, finding your people, parenting, self-acceptance, and why sometimes the very things that make us feel broken are the things that help others feel less alone. Jenny shares stories about navigating treatment-resistant depression, discovering community through writing, finding healing through humor, embracing her wonderfully unconventional creativity, and learning to run toward joy wherever she can find it.
We also discuss her newest book, How to Be Okay When Nothing Is Okay, and the practical tools that have helped her keep going through some of life's darkest moments. But this episode became something more than that for me.
There was a moment involving Jenny's dog Dottie that stopped both of us in our tracks and felt so divinely timed that I still get emotional thinking about it. My Wiley said hello that day. Yes, from his perch along the Rainbow Bridge. I know it sounds impossible. Just wait until you hear or see it.
If you've ever struggled with anxiety, depression, ADHD, burnout, grief, self-doubt, feeling different, or wondering whether you'll ever find your people, this conversation is for you. And if you've ever needed a reminder that you're not alone, you have found your people here.
In This Episode
✔️ Why "depression lies"
✔️ How humor shrinks life's biggest monsters
✔️ Living with ADHD and embracing creativity
✔️ Finding your people by being yourself
✔️ Parenting, perfectionism, and self-compassion
✔️ Mental health tools that actually help
✔️ Why joy matters more than ever
✔️ The healing power of storytelling and human connection
✔️ Taxidermy, emotional support wild boars, and other things I never expected to discuss
Memorable Quotes
"It's going to be okay."
"Depression lies."
"Run after anything that brings you joy."
"If they love that in her, maybe they'll love that in me too."
"You are doing so much better than you think."
About Jenny Lawson
Jenny Lawson, affectionately known as The Bloggess, is a #1 New York Times bestselling author, award-winning humorist, columnist, and mental health advocate. Her books include Let's Pretend This Never Happened, Furiously Happy, You Are Here, Broken (in the Best Possible Way), and How to Be Okay When Nothing Is Okay.
One more thing: Jenny's song of survival is "Eight Miles Wide" by Storm Large. Trust me: you'll want to look it up after this episode. 💛 ⚡️ ❤️🩹 🌈 🦋