Quintessentially British

QB_episode 4_Pt1.mp3

飛行機話、第一弾。

British AirwaysのOpen dayに行ったエピソードなど。

当日の他の写真などはまゆソの方に。

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QB_your emails_Pt2.mp3

お便り紹介、第二弾。

前回の続きです。

学校の話とか。

夏なのでりんご飴。

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That's just a subject on its own really, it goes beyond the scope of this particular podcast.

それはもうそれだけで独立した話題だから。このポッドキャストの範疇を超える。

You never know, some people might be really uncomfortable

I think she is, basically.

You can't force it, you'll just have to take your cue from the other person.

強制することはできない、相手（の出方に）倣わないと。

It's where English is a common language but maybe not necessarily anybody's first language, so you'll have a slightly different set-up there.

英語が共通言語かもしれないけど、誰の第一言語でもないかもしれないから、ちょっと状況が違う。

If you had the the choice I would personally recommend going to a normal school, a local school, and then keeping up Japanese on Saturdays or best you can, because keeping up Japanese is half the battle.

選択肢があるなら、個人的には普通の地元の学校に行って、土曜日か別のときにできるだけ日本語を習うことをお勧めする。日本語を維持するのが勝負の半分だから。

Well it is the battle isn't it.

ていうかそれこそが勝負だよね。

How much of anything can you really discuss in a language you're not comfortable with, I don't know.

自分が不得意な言語で一体どれほどのことを話し合えるものか、私には謎だけど。

They probably would have done a lot of things differently themselves because I don't think they had a plan, and a lot of things just worked out well in the circumstances. They didn't know when we were going to go back to Japan or if we were going to go back to Japan at all, so they just played it by ear.

今だったら色んなことを違う風にしたと思う。計画とか特になくて、そのときの状況下で色んなことが偶然うまくいっただけ。いつ日本に帰るのか、帰るのかどうかも分からなかったから、即興でやってただろうし。

They just winged it. You can't advise that, you can't say that to new parents, 'oh just wing it'.

ぶっつけ本番だよね。でも新米のパパママに「ぶっつけ本番で」って言えないよね。

Equally I think there is something to that, don't over-think it. Just go with the flow, I guess.

でも同時にそれにも一理あると思う。あまり考えすぎずに流れに任せて。

But I would always say, talk to them in your own language.

ただ、（子どもに）自分の言葉で話してとは言いたいかな。

I would have thought so, I would have thought that was more spontaneous. And for God's sake, communication is hard in whatever language.

その方が自然だと思うよね。コミュニケーションは何語でも難しいものだし。

It's hard. Of course it's hard.

難しくて当然だよ。

You don't want that added burden of speaking in a 'common' language that's not a comfortable language for anyone to speak.

誰にとっても得意でない「共通の」言葉で話そうっていう、余分な足枷はいらない。

That's an entire world cut off for that person, you've lost out on an entire world.

その子にとっては世界をひとつ丸ごと失くしてしまうこと。

It's a beautiful language, I don't know why you would let go of that, or why you would intentionally decide not to teach it.

せっかく綺麗な言葉だから、わざわざ手放したり、あえて教えない決断をする必要はない。

They know what they want to say, they have the clarity of mind to know what they want to say, and they try, and their shots are usually good.

言いたいことが明確にあって、それを考える頭の中がはっきりしていて、話そうと努力するから、彼らは大体いい線を行く。

And vocabulary is one of those things that you can actually sit down at a desk and teach yourself - it's hardly the most important thing at all.

ボキャブラリーなんてのは、実際独学でなんとかなるものだから。決して一番重要なことではない。

And people who have done that will know how to learn in that manner because they know what a learning process involves.

そういう人は学び方を、学習プロセスの何たるかを既に知っている。

Yes, they've done it once in their own language.

一度すでに母国語で経験しているから。

You've given yourself a good grounding to start learning that language, so eventually you'll master it.

基礎ができているから第二カ国語を習うのも楽だし、そのうちマスターできる。

One does not usually complement the other. I would say one does not usually compensate for the other. That's not quite how it works, unfortunately.

通常、一方がもう一方を補足したり、補正したりするわけではない。残念ながらそういう風にできていない。

It doesn't really matter whether you feel that you're a better English speaker than Japanese, or whether you think, oh, my written Japanese is actually a bit crap, that's fine, but you just want one language minimum where you can communicate well, you can advocate all your thoughts well, and where you can express yourself.

日本語より英語で会話する方が楽だとか、日本語の書きがだいぶダメとか、そう思ってるぶんには別に良いけど、少なくともひとつの言葉では充分にコミュニケーションできて、考えを正確に述べられて、言いたいことを表現できるようでないと。

We're not in a very good place to give this advice because we never learned English. This is just how it panned out.

たまたまこうなっただけで、英語を習ったわけではないから、あまりアドバイスできる立場にない。

It seems really counter-intuitive but I'm afraid, I think based on experience, that is the underlining advice we can give. To be able to speak English well, and that's the important bit, to be able to speak it well - if you want to just be able to speak it it's slightly different, but if you want to speak English well - then you really want a good grounding in Japanese. Or whatever language is your base language.

直感に反するようだけど、経験上、（そこを強調した）アドバイスになる。英語を正しく話せるようになるにはーそこが大事なとこで、別にただ話せればいいっていうなら話は別なんだけどー正しく話せるようになるには、日本語の基礎がやはり大切だと思う。あるいは何語でも、自分のベースの言葉の基礎が。

QB_your emails_Pt1.mp3

お便り紹介、第一弾。

長いので途中で切りました。次回第二弾！

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Having received this question I did have a very good think about this, and although it's difficult...it's difficult to talk about British English and American English in the context of law without separating out the language from the judicial system. So without trying to get very technical about this, when you're talking about the difference in English when it comes to the legal system you are talking about that legal system.

この質問を受けて良く考えてみたんだけど、法律におけるイギリス英語とアメリカ英語を語るにあたって、言葉の違いと司法制度の違いを分けて考えるのは難しい。あまり専門的にならずに言うと、英語の違いはそのまま司法制度の違いの話になる。

There is no legal English to speak of...well there is legalese, there is such a word.

法律英語っていうものは特にないよね。まあリーガリーズっていう言葉はあるけど。

So what I was going to say was, just as an example, like the British civil litigation system underwent a reform called the Woolf reform in recent times whereby that's basically a movement where we thought, okay, we're going to make the legal system a lot more accessible to everyone including lay people, and let's try to simplify all the legal jargon that have been used by the legal profession to date, and since that reform, basically a lot of the archaic legal jargon has been simplified, now whether that is being used as much as it should be in practice is a totally different story.

何を言おうとしたかと言うと、一例として、近年イギリスの訴訟制度にはWoolf改革というのがあって、要するに「よし、これからは司法制度を（素人の人を含めた）全ての人にアクセスしやすいようにしよう、これまで法曹界で使われてきた法律用語をより簡単なものにしよう」、っていうものなんだけど、その改革以来、古めかしい法律用語は簡略化された。実際にその簡略化された用語が使われているかというとまた別の話なんだけど。

[A claimant] is a lot more in line with the normal language that we use in daily life, as opposed to referring to them as the plaintiff, which is the term we used to use. Now we do still use that, and we probably shouldn't, but generally we refer to a person who brings a claim as the claimant; I think in America, or in the American legal system, the old legal speak is still much more in use, so they might still refer to the plaintiff. Or we have this process in litigation called the disclosure system, which is where the parties involved in a dispute disclose to each other documents that are relevant to the dispute, and we used to refer to that as the discovery process before this reform...

（昔使われていた）Plaintiffよりclaimantという方が普段使う言葉に近い。（本当はいけないけど）実際にはまだplaintiffも使うけど、全体的にはクレームする人のことはclaimantと呼ぶことになっている。アメリカでは、アメリカの司法制度では、古い方の言葉がまだ一般的に使われていると思う。あと訴訟ではdisclosure systemというものがあって、法的争いの関係者がそれに関する書類を互いに開示し合うものなんだけど、改革前はそれをdiscovery processと呼んでいた。

Okay, so it's quite misleading?

じゃあ結構語弊がある？

Well it's not...people in the profession understand why it's called the discovery system because you discover the core of dispute by disclosing these documents, but what you're doing is disclosing documents so basically we refer to it as the disclosure process. In America I think it's still very much referred to as the discovery system, er, the discovery procedure.

語弊というか、業界の人はなぜdiscovery systemというのかは知ってるよ。書類を開示して論争の核部分を探ろう（discover）っていうことだから。でもやってることは書類の開示なわけで、だからこれはdisclosure（開示）プロセスというの。アメリカではまだdiscovery systemとかdiscovery procedureって言ってる。

So there might...it might be said that there's been a bit of a reversal then...

じゃあちょっと（アメリカとイギリスが）反転したって言える？

xxx, ("the claimant")...define and thereafter that person is "the claimant".

xxx,（"claimant"）定義つけられて、「以後、claimantとする」

The defendant was obliged to provide protective clothing. "The defendant was obligated to do something". Now I don't think I've ever said obligated in my life. I completely understand what they mean by it, and actually, there is a bit of an overlap, some people say obligated here as well, but I think very rarely. We have phrases like "much obliged" you know, we don't use that very often...

被告には防護服を支給する義務があった。obligateって言葉、今までに使ったことないかも。意味は分かるし、イギリスでも使う人はいるから多少のオーバーラップはあるけど、すごく稀だと思う。"much obliged"とかいうフレーズはあるけどあまり使わないし。

But you do oblige someone, or you are obliged to do something.

I work in editing legal content so there is a little bit of an overlap here...just even in everyday life you don't spell judgment with an 'e'...you can,

People do...

...it's not a mistake, but it is thought of as more English to spell it without an 'e'. So just coming from an editing background, or just in terms of best practice, in editing not in legal work...

間違いではないけど、eを使わないのがイギリス風と言われてる。

It was bluebell time in Kent...

「ケントはブルーベルの季節でした」

In literature and things, yes, but you just don't want to alienate anybody. In layman's terms.

文学とかではね、でも誰も除外してはいけないし。

Lasting powers of attorney, you talk about the powers of attorney.

...et al. <<及びその他>>

Chomsky posits, Chomsky endorses, Chomsky's school of thought...

In relation to, pertaining to, with reference to...

Don't waffle!

ぐだぐだ言わない！

Say what you're going to say, say it, then say what you've just said.

Let's get this straight. I think we gave off the impression that we're...

はっきり言っておこう。悪い印象を与えてしまったかもしれないけど。。。

Dissing! Our American counterparts!

We were just trying to highlight the differences. I do object to the under-representation of British English, but at the same time, I am aware that it's a true representation of the true numbers of people who actually speak British English outside of Britain.

違いに焦点をあてたかっただけ。イギリス英語のunder-representationには異議はあるけど、同時にイギリス以外でイギリス英語を話す人の実際のrepresentationだろうってことも分かってるし。

We certainly didn't mean that at all, we love America, if you're from there...you guys rock, thanks for giving us amazing TV shows and whatever else...I just think British English is not as known, it receives very little exposure outside of Britain (and only in) very specific channels...so I thought it would be interesting to highlight the likes and where we differ.

To be absolutely honest, of course American English is going to feature much more than British English in Japan given the history. Of course it would. Equally, British English might be more familiar in China because of Hong Kong. It's all the history isn't it, you can't possibly discount the effects of historical relations.

There are historical factors.

Awesome!

Braid, plait.　<<三つ編み、編み込み>>

Can I go to the toilet? May I go to the toilet? （May Iの方が許可を求めるニュアンスになります）

Cut the faff

Tidy up (pack up)/Lie-in <<片付ける＆朝寝する>>

Skip/skive/bunk off <<サボる>>

The Perfect Serve by the Poolside Stella Artois UK

QB_episode 2.mp3

Booze（お酒）と利きジン。

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What is your drink?

あなたの「マイドリンク」って何？

I've kind of shot myself in the foot here because I don't drink. I really can't take my drink.

私ちょっと墓穴を掘ったかも。飲めないから。本当にお酒は弱いの。

ちょっとほろ酔いでふわふわしてるけど、でも吐いたりする程には泥酔してなくて。

You're quite tipsy but not quite drunk enough to feel like you have to throw up or whatever.

She was like, kipping on my floor.

彼女は私の部屋の床で寝ていた。

It's my round, what can I get you?

私の奢る番だよ、何がいい？

Can I get you another one? Do you want another one of those?

もう一杯どう？同じのにしようか？

Have another one, one for the road.

もう一杯行こうよ、最後に（出がけの、〆の）一杯。

We went gin tasting yesterday. It was really nice actually.

昨日ジンテイスティングに行きました。すごくよかった。

And there was like a little dish of garnish...there was celery, peach, plum, citrus fruit, cucumber, olives, blueberries, a sprig of thyme...

付け合わせ（つま）の乗った小皿があって。。。セロリと、桃と、プラム、柑橘類、きゅうり、オリーブ、ブルーベリー、一枝のタイム。。。

So we used to just open the cheapest bottle of red before going.

（クラブに）行く前に、一番安い赤（ワイン）を開けたりしていた。

We don't actually have the enzymes.

（日本人は）実は酵素がないんです、って。

My disclaimer is I lack the enzymes.

私の免責事項（言い訳）は、酵素が欠落してることです、って。

Talking of reasons you can't drink, my boss is actually...she's Muslim, so she's not allowed to drink at all. So she doesn't come to work functions or Christmas parties or anything.

飲めない理由と言えば、私の上司はムスリム（イスラム教徒）だから、飲酒は一切禁止。だから仕事絡みのイベントとかクリスマスパーティーとかにも来ない。

She actually is not allowed to sit facing the bar. So if there's ever a bar in the same venue, even if it's just a restaurant, she can't sit facing it.

彼女は実はバーの方を向いて座る事もだめなの。だから同じ店内にバーがあったら、普通のレストランでも、そっちを向いて座れない。（※全てのイスラム教徒がそうだというわけではありません）

Alcopop《アルコール入り炭酸飲料》

Union 《（ここでは大学内のバーの意）》

Smirnoff Ice

Bacardi Breezer

WKD

Pimm's

Beefeater gin

Gordon's gin

London dry gin

Bombay Sapphire

QB_pilot episode.mp3

自己紹介とイギリス英語。

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Although it did occur to me I can just call you you, in English, so as long as I speak in English we might be able to get away with it...She's my sister, but she's...'sister'.

でも思ったんだけど、普通に英語でyouって言えばいいんだよね。英語で話しているぶんには誤摩化せるかもしれないし。「私の」妹ですが、'sister'ということで。

お聞き苦しいところもあるかと思いますが...it's true to the way we speak, this mixture of English and Japanese and...

実際の私たちの話し方のままです、この英語と日本語が混ざった感じ。。。

British English.

...British English, of course, so um, yes, we'll just see how it goes.

もちろん、イギリス英語。だからまあ、ちょっと様子を見てみます。

...and I was really absolutely devastated by that and I was just furious at the injustice of not being able to talk just because it's a different accent, possibly a different dialect...

それですごくガッカリして、アクセントや方言が違うというだけで話させてもらえないっていう不公平に憤慨して。。。

I didn't have a brolly so my god, it was just so...it was raining so much outside I just got so wet I wasn't...I didn't have my brolly with me

傘を持ってなかったから、もう。。。外はすごく雨が降ってて、濡れちゃって。。。

I was queueing up for the till and this woman just jumped the queue in front of me and that's why I was delayed...

レジに並んでいたら、女の人が前に割り込んできたから、それで遅れてしまって。

I was queueing for my turn, I was waiting to pay for my...whatever I was about to pay for...

自分の番を待ってたの、支払いを。。。（何か忘れたけど）支払い待ちで。

I don't know, what do you do? （って言ったら）You stand in a line!

分からない、そっちはなんて言うの？って聞いたらYou stand in a line!って。

Potatoes can stand in a line!

ラインに立つだけならジャガイモでも（人間でなくとも）できるじゃん。

蓋を開けてみたら実はBritish Englishの発音がadopt《採用》されてたから、I was pleasantly surprised《いい意味で驚いた》...

It's like meeting an old friend abroad.

（外国で古い友人に会ったかのような）

偏見だから。それは偏見です。We'd like to think so...《私たちはそう思いたいけれど》

二週間全部を指して言う言葉だから。。。例えばa fortnight ago I did this, in a fortnight's time I've got another meeting《二週間前これをした、あと二週間後にはまた会議がある》...

Fortnight's festival《二週間のお祭り》

Fortnightly festival《二週間ごとのお祭り》（←言い間違いです。そんな祭りはない！）

This is going to be a fortnightly podcast

（これは二週間おきのポッドキャストになる予定です）

So we'll see you in a fortnight's time?

In a fortnight's time.

Ok. Bye!