In this episode of the Radical Hospitality Podcast, host Zeke Freeman sits down with Dale Pahmiyer, Vice President of Magnolia Realty, in the heart of Waco, Texas. Known for his pivotal behind-the-scenes role on Fixer Upper, Dale shares the origin story of his long-standing relationship with Chip and Joanna Gaines, how he became a key part of Magnolia’s growth, and what it takes to build spaces that truly feel like home.
From managing Fixer Upper renovations to helping lead the design of Hotel 1928, Dale offers a unique perspective on architecture, transformation, and the intentionality behind every Magnolia project. The conversation explores what sets Magnolia Realty apart—its focus on storytelling, quality, and deep connection with clients—and dives into the revival of Waco’s downtown through thoughtful development.
Zeke and Dale also discuss accessible design, short-term rental trends in Texas, and what makes Magnolia’s real estate model different in a crowded market. Plus, Dale shares a moving story from one of his favorite Fixer Upper projects—the home that became a lifeline for the Copp family.
Whether you’re a fan of Fixer Upper, an investor eyeing Texas, or just curious about how real estate can create meaningful moments, this episode is full of warmth, wisdom, and hospitality-driven insight.
What You'll Learn in This Episode:
- Dale’s personal journey into Magnolia and how he helped shape Fixer Upper behind the scenes
- The vision and community impact behind Hotel 1928
- Why Magnolia’s approach to real estate is rooted in relationship and transition, not just transactions
- How Magnolia trains realtors to carry the brand's hospitality DNA
- The role of storytelling and emotional design in both homes and commercial spaces
- Dale’s perspective on short-term rental growth and investment trends in Texas
- A powerful story of accessibility, hope, and how the right space can change lives
Notable Quotes:
“It’s not about the transaction. It’s about the transitions.”
“We believe in home—it restores us from the day and readies us for tomorrow.”
“Restoring glory… to buildings, to people, to neighborhoods—that’s what this work is about.”
Connect with Zeke Freeman:
Instagram: @zekefreeman_rootarchitecture and @rootarchitecture
YouTube: @rootarchitecture
Facebook: @RootArchitectureandDevelopment
LinkedIn: Zeke Freeman
X/Twitter: @zfreemanroot
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