Could accountants save the world — and why haven't they already?

In this TBLI Talk, we sit down with Sara Olsen, founder of SVT Group and one of the most influential practitioners in the global impact management profession. Sara has spent over two decades doing something the broader impact sector says is impossible — measuring, managing, and verifying social and environmental impact rigorously, at scale, and in ways that actually drive business decisions and financial performance.

Her radical truth: the tools exist. The profession exists. What is missing is the will and the skill to use them.

In this episode:

• How to measure and verify social impact — practically, rigorously, and at scale
• Why impact accounting is not just an ethical framework but an essential driver of financial performance
• How accountants might just save the world — and what that requires of the profession
• How to get professionals doing high-quality impact accounting and management quickly
• What SVT Group's work managing $9.9 billion+ in assets has revealed about what actually works in impact management
• How Social Value International is working to change the way society accounts for value — and what that means for ESG standards globally
• What firms with a genuine impact focus — like Techstars, Mission Driven Finance, and Angels of Impact — do differently from the rest

The key insight: We do have the tools to understand the impact of the global capital marketplace in all its diverse and complex reality. Those who claim we don't are either uninformed — or giving investors and businesses a convenient excuse to keep ignoring what matters.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — Why impact accounting is the missing lever in sustainable finance
• 0:X:XX — How to measure and verify social impact in practice
• 0:X:XX — Why impact accounting drives financial performance
• 0:X:XX — How accountants might just save the world
• 0:X:XX — What 7,000+ professionals trained in impact management have learned
• 0:X:XX — Social Value International: changing the way society accounts for value
• 0:X:XX — How to build the impact management profession at speed and scale

👤 About Sara OlsenSara Olsen is the founder of SVT Group, a pioneering impact management advisory firm whose work has been used to manage the impact of $9.9 billion+ in assets. She has trained over 7,000 individuals in impact measurement and management skills. Impact Entrepreneur A champion of the emerging impact management profession, she serves as board member and methodology co-chair of Social Value International — the international standards body working to change the way society accounts for value — and as SVI's liaison to the Impact Management Platform, which harmonises leading ESG and impact disclosure and management standards. Impact Entrepreneur She has been recognised twice as one of America's Most Promising Social Entrepreneurs by Bloomberg Businessweek. Middlebury Institute of International Studies at Monterey Sara founded SVT Group in 2001, has taught at Stanford Graduate School of Business and Middlebury Institute of International Studies, and holds an MBA from UC Berkeley and an MSW from the University of Chicago. SVT Group

Whether you are an impact investor, an accountant, a CFO, a nonprofit leader, or anyone who believes that what gets measured gets managed — this episode is essential listening.

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Is "financial inclusion" the fintech industry's biggest lie — and who is really paying the price?

Emmanuel Daniel, award-winning founder of The Asian Banker and Wealth and Society, and author of The Great Transition — the personalization of finance is here, delivers a verdict that will unsettle the fintech world: "financial inclusion" as the industry describes it is a lie. The term was requisitioned by platform players because it suited their model — onboard millions, then monetise them. Not a single technology-driven financial inclusion model today is designed to pass savings to the poor or allow them to generate wealth.

In this episode:

• Why "financial inclusion" as marketed by fintech is fundamentally dishonest
• How VC funding structures make genuine financial inclusion structurally impossible
• The real consequences when financial inclusion is wrongly applied — and who pays
• What financial inclusion should actually mean
• Why digital inclusion offers what fintech-driven inclusion cannot
• How the shift from platform finance to personalisation changes everything

The key insight: Platform fintech was never designed to serve the poor — it was designed to populate platforms and monetise them. Making finance cheaper is not the same as making it work for people. The radical shift ahead is personalisation: finance built around the individual, not the institution.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — Why financial inclusion is fintech's biggest lie
• 0:X:XX — How VC structures make genuine inclusion impossible
• 0:X:XX — Consequences of financial inclusion wrongly applied
• 0:X:XX — What financial inclusion should actually mean
• 0:X:XX — Digital inclusion vs financial inclusion
• 0:X:XX — From platforms to personalisation: The Great Transition

👤 About Emmanuel DanielEmmanuel Daniel founded The Asian Banker in Singapore in 1996 and Wealth and Society, a global programme tracking impact investments and philanthropy. A top 10 global Fintech Power50 influencer in 2021 and 2022, and winner of the Citibank Excellence in Business Journalism Award for Asia, his book The Great Transition draws on decades of global consulting to map the finance industry's evolution from platforms to personalisation. Forewords by former US Congressman Barney Frank and Richard Sandor, father of financial futures.

If you work in fintech, impact investing, or financial regulation — this episode is essential listening.

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The carbon bubble is real, it is enormous — and most investors are still not paying attention. Why?

In this TBLI Talk, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Mark Campanale, one of the true pioneers of sustainable investing and the founder of Carbon Tracker Initiative. Mark coined the "unburnable carbon" thesis, gave the world the concept of stranded assets, and has spent over three decades redirecting capital away from fossil fuels. His radical truth: the energy system is already changing — and investors still treating fossil fuels as business as usual are sitting on a $100 trillion time bomb.

In this episode:

• Why renewables being cheaper than fossil fuels changes the entire investment calculus
• How big the carbon bubble really is — and what $100 trillion in lost fossil fuel revenues means for portfolios
• Manufactured energy vs commodity energy: why electrons are displacing molecules
• How investors lose — and make — money when a whole system changes
• Where the real risks lie for investors clinging to fossil fuel business as usual
• How to move the needle on capital mobilisation away from a carbon-intensive economy

The key insight: The transition is not coming — it is already here. Renewable energy is now cheaper than fossil fuels, making billions in planned fossil fuel projects economically unviable. Investors who miss this shift don't just damage the planet. They destroy their own returns.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — Why the carbon bubble matters now
• 0:X:XX — Renewables cheaper than fossil fuels: the investment implications
• 0:X:XX — The $100 trillion lost fossil fuel revenue question
• 0:X:XX — Manufactured vs commodity energy: electrons vs molecules
• 0:X:XX — How whole-system transitions create investor risk and opportunity
• 0:X:XX — Moving capital: what investors can do today

👤 About Mark CampanaleMark Campanale is the founder of the Carbon Tracker Initiative and the author of the "unburnable carbon" capital markets thesis. He co-founded some of the first responsible investment funds, including Jupiter Asset Management's Ecology Funds, NPI's Global Care, AMP's Capital Sustainable Future Funds, and Henderson Global Investors' Industries of the Future Funds. Investing for Impact He was awarded the 2021 Joan Bavaria Award for Building Sustainability into the Capital Markets by Ceres and Trillium Asset Management, and is a Visiting Lecturer at the University of Cambridge's sustainable finance programme. Ceres He is also co-founder of Planet Tracker and advises financial institutions including Tribe Impact Capital and Consilium Capital. Planet Tracker

For anyone serious about climate finance, energy transition, and where capital needs to go next — this episode is essential listening.

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In this TBLI Talk, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Marko Oksanen, CEO and co-founder of Coventures, a Helsinki-based venture builder that bridges the gap between established corporations and entrepreneurial talent. With 20+ digital ventures built across Helsinki and Berlin, Marko has seen every flavour of corporate innovation — the bold bets, the missed opportunities, and the avoidable mistakes. His radical truth: corporations are full of top talent, but they consistently miss the one ingredient that makes ventures succeed — the entrepreneur.

In this episode:

• What role corporate venture building can play in the impact ecosystem
• Why most corporate venture building initiatives fail — and the structural reasons behind it
• Why internal staff, however capable, are rarely the right people to build new ventures
• The different types of partners in the corporate venture building ecosystem, and when to work with each
• How to combine corporate assets and know-how with genuine entrepreneurial skill
• What the Coventures co-venturing model reveals about building new businesses that actually matter

The key insight: Corporations have assets, distribution, and domain expertise — but they routinely underestimate how different the skills of a builder are from those of a manager. Outsourcing to consultants doesn't solve this. Bringing in battle-tested entrepreneurs does.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — Why corporate venture building so often fails
• 0:X:XX — The role of corporate venture building in the impact ecosystem
• 0:X:XX — Why internal staff struggle to build new ventures
• 0:X:XX — The right partners: who, why, and when
• 0:X:XX — What successful ventures from corporates actually look like
• 0:X:XX — Lessons from 20+ ventures across Helsinki and Berlin

👤 About Marko OksanenMarko Oksanen is CEO of Coventures, a company that partners with established organisations to enhance their capabilities for innovation and growth. Coventures connects entrepreneurs with corporate assets and know-how to build meaningful, impact-driven ventures. THE ORG Marko has delivered more than 40 different innovation projects, giving him extensive insight into different types of companies and industries, and is considered one of the top product management experts in Finland, teaching at Aalto University and coaching in leading incubator programmes. Coventures Oy He holds a Master of Science in Knowledge Intensive Business from Aalto University. THE ORG

For anyone working in corporate innovation, impact investing, or entrepreneurship — this episode is essential listening.

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In this TBLI Talk, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Johan Jörgensen, founder of Sweden FoodTech and the man widely known as "Mr. FoodTech." Johan co-founded the Smaka Good Food Festival — one of the world's largest food gatherings — and has spent over a decade building the Nordic foodtech ecosystem into a global reference point for what a healthier, more innovative, and less destructive food system actually looks like. His radical truth: our current food system is built on false mathematics — and the real cost of food is three times what we pay at the checkout.

In this episode:

• How Sweden FoodTech is transforming the food system to be less destructive, healthier, and more supportive of smallholder farmers
• Why the current food system is based on false mathematics — and what the real cost of food actually is
• How data, technology, and innovation are driving the shift from industrial-age food to next-generation food
• What role foodtech plays in addressing climate, biodiversity, and health simultaneously
• How the Nordic approach — without entrenched food traditions — creates space for bold systemic change
• What investors and entrepreneurs need to understand about the food system transformation

The key insight: Just twelve plants and five animals account for 75% of the planet's calories. That monoculture made the planet and all of us acutely ill. The next food system starts from what we can actually produce and eat without bringing harm with it — and the technology to get there exists today.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — Why the food system must change — and why now
• 0:X:XX — The false mathematics of food: the real cost is three times the price
• 0:X:XX — How Sweden FoodTech is building the next-generation food system
• 0:X:XX — Supporting smallholder farmers through innovation and data
• 0:X:XX — What investors and entrepreneurs need to know about foodtech
• 0:X:XX — The Nordic advantage: no food traditions, no constraints

👤 About Johan JörgensenJohan Jörgensen is the founder of Sweden FoodTech and coaches nations, cities, corporations, and entrepreneurs on strategic business-building in the transforming food sector. An internet entrepreneur turned investor with over 20 years of experience, he started his career in the tech sector in the early 1990s and focused on foodtech from 2011, when he was named venture capitalist of the year. Menub In 2015 Johan ran the innovation programme for the USA Pavilion at the World Expo in Milan, where he concluded that the next-generation food system would be born in dynamic, health-focused, sustainability-oriented places — like the Nordics. Menub Sweden FoodTech hosts the Smaka Good Food Festival and the Big Meet foodtech conference, and runs the leading foodtech community FoodTechVillage.com. Johanjorgensen

For anyone working in food systems, impact investing, or sustainable innovation — this episode is essential listening.

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Can a pension fund become an industry leader on net zero — starting from zero? Denise Le Gal did exactly that.

In this TBLI Talk, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Denise Le Gal, founding Chair of Brunel Pension Partnership, one of the UK's largest and most progressive LGPS pools, managing assets on behalf of over £30 billion across 10 likeminded public pension funds. Denise helped sign Brunel into existence and spent eight years ensuring that responsible investment — not as a checkbox but as a core conviction — sat at the heart of everything it did. Her radical truth: pension funds that ignore environmental, social, and governance risk are not protecting their beneficiaries. They are gambling with their futures.

In this episode:

• Why pension funds must look beyond financial risk to ESG and systemic risk
• How Brunel built a responsible investment culture from scratch — with no employees, no office, and no template to follow
• What it takes to place RI at the core of a major institutional investor's strategy, even when facing scepticism from within
• How impact is becoming the next frontier for pension funds — and what that means for policy and regulation
• Why stakeholder capitalism makes both fiduciary and business sense for pension funds
• What leadership in ESG investing actually looks like from the inside

The key insight: Responsible investment is not about tree-hugging. It is about recognising that climate, social, and governance risks are financial risks — and that pension funds which fail to integrate them are failing their beneficiaries, full stop.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — Why pension funds can no longer ignore ESG risk
• 0:X:XX — Building Brunel's responsible investment culture from the ground up
• 0:X:XX — What fiduciary duty really means in a climate-challenged world
• 0:X:XX — Impact as the next frontier for institutional investors
• 0:X:XX — Stewardship, engagement, and shaping policy as an asset owner
• 0:X:XX — Lessons from eight years leading a pioneering LGPS pool

👤 About Denise Le GalDenise Le Gal cut her teeth in the Local Government Pension Scheme world when she became chair of the Surrey Pension Fund Committee in 2009, working for eight years alongside LGPS leaders with a shared aim of improving governance across the scheme. Local Government Chronicle She was among those to sign Brunel Pension Partnership into existence and served two full terms as founding Chair, placing responsible investment at the core of Brunel's priorities from day one — despite early scepticism from some quarters. Brunelpensionpartnership She also served as Chair of the JP Morgan Chase UK Retirement Plan and as Co-Chair of the Local Authority Pension Fund Forum. Esginvestor

For anyone working in institutional investment, pension governance, ESG, or sustainable finance — this episode is essential listening.

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#PensionFunds #ResponsibleInvesting #DeniseLegal #BrunelPensionPartnership #ESG #ImpactInvesting #TBLI #TBLITalk #LGPS #NetZero #FiduciaryDuty #ClimateRisk #SustainableFinance #Stewardship #InstitutionalInvesting

What does it take to build a conscience into the financial system — and then do it all over again in China?

In this TBLI Talk, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Wayne Silby, one of the most consequential pioneers in the history of impact investing. In 1982, when colleagues told him he was "on drugs," Wayne co-founded the Calvert Social Investment Fund — the United States' first socially responsible mutual fund. The industry he helped create now manages trillions. He is still at the frontier, now working to build the impact ecosystem in China.

His radical truth: a core vision combined with grassroots effort can still change the world — but only if you are willing to be the only yes vote in the room.

In this episode:

• How to start and build an impact investing fund from scratch — lessons from five decades at the frontier
• What inspired the creation of the world's first socially responsible mutual fund — and what almost stopped it
• How SRI evolved into ESG, and what the next iteration of impact investing will look like
• Why Wayne has spent years building the impact and CSR ecosystem in China — and what he has learned
• What donor-advised funds like ImpactAssets reveal about the future of giving and investing together
• How shareholder activism, below-market investing, and venture capital can all serve the same mission

The key insight: At 27, Wayne realised his tombstone would read that he earned 0.20% more for investors than others. That didn't sit well with him. So he built something different — a fund that represented the values of a generation. That instinct to ask "what is this money actually for?" is still the most radical question in finance.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — The origin story: how Calvert became the first SRI mutual fund
• 0:X:XX — How to build an impact investing fund management firm
• 0:X:XX — From SRI to ESG to impact: what comes next?
• 0:X:XX — Building the impact ecosystem in China
• 0:X:XX — ImpactAssets and the future of donor-advised funds
• 0:X:XX — Lessons from 50 years at the frontier of values-based investing

👤 About Wayne SilbyWayne Silby is the co-founder of Calvert Investments, one of the first and largest socially responsible mutual funds in the United States, and is considered one of the early pioneers of impact investing. In 1982, inspired by a Buddhist conference on "Right Livelihood," he co-founded the Calvert Social Investment Fund — the first socially responsible mutual fund — which was also the first fund to divest from apartheid South Africa and the first to file shareholder resolutions on gender and racial parity in boardrooms. Wikipedia He is also co-founder of Calvert Foundation, a $300 million nonprofit lender, and founding chair of ImpactAssets. ImpactAssets He holds a BS in Economics from the Wharton School and a JD from Georgetown University Law Center. Wikipedia

For anyone serious about the history, present, and future of impact investing — this episode is essential listening.

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In this TBLI Talk, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Professor Tim Jackson, one of the world's foremost ecological economists and the author of the landmark book Prosperity Without Growth — translated into 17 languages and named a Financial Times book of the year — and his follow-up Post Growth: Life After Capitalism. For three decades, Tim has asked the question that terrifies politicians and economists alike: what does prosperity actually mean on a finite planet? His radical truth: the relentless pursuit of more has delivered climate catastrophe, social inequality, and financial instability — and capitalism as we know it is not the solution. It is the problem.

In this episode:

• Why capitalism is broken — and what the evidence from economics, ecology, and philosophy actually shows
• What a post-growth economy looks like in practice: not collapse, but a precise, definable alternative
• Why GDP growth beyond a certain point no longer increases human wellbeing — and what does
• How relationship, meaning, and care can take precedence over profits and power in a redesigned economy
• What the pandemic revealed about our deep unpreparedness for life beyond endless consumption
• What investors, policymakers, and citizens can do to build the economy of tomorrow

The key insight: The idea of a non-growing economy is an anathema to an economist. The idea of a continually growing economy is an anathema to an ecologist. Tim Jackson sits at that tension — and has spent thirty years showing that building a post-growth economy is not utopia. It is the most urgent task of our times.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — Why capitalism is broken and growth is not the answer
• 0:X:XX — What a post-growth economy actually looks like
• 0:X:XX — The myth of decoupling: why green growth is not enough
• 0:X:XX — Redefining prosperity: meaning, relationship, and flourishing
• 0:X:XX — What the pandemic revealed about our economic fragility
• 0:X:XX — What investors and policymakers must do differently

👤 About Prof. Tim JacksonTim Jackson is a British ecological economist and Professor of Sustainable Development at the University of Surrey, and Director of the Centre for the Understanding of Sustainable Prosperity (CUSP). Wikipedia His ground-breaking book Prosperity without Growth (2009/2017) was named a Financial Times book of the year in 2010 and UnHerd's economics book of the decade in 2019, and has been translated into 17 languages. He served as Economics Commissioner for the UK Sustainable Development Commission from 2004 to 2011. University of Surrey Tim holds degrees in mathematics from Cambridge, philosophy, and physics, and was awarded the Hillary Laureate for exceptional international leadership in sustainability in 2016. In addition to his academic work, he is an award-winning dramatist with radio credits for the BBC. University of Surrey

For anyone questioning the purpose of growth, the future of capitalism, and what genuine prosperity looks like — this episode is essential listening.

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#PostGrowth #ProsperityWithoutGrowth #TimJackson #Degrowth #ESG #ImpactInvesting #TBLI #TBLITalk #EcologicalEconomics #SystemChange #BeyondCapitalism #SustainableProsperity #ClimateEconomics #Wellbeing #FinitePlanet

In this TBLI Talk, Robert Rubinstein sits down with Barney Swan, founder of ClimateForce and one of the most hands-on regenerative practitioners working in nature today. Raised off-grid and shaped by a lifetime of polar expeditions, Barney has moved from surviving on NASA-designed solar ice melters and biofuel in Antarctica to leading the restoration of over 450 acres of the Daintree Rainforest in Far North Queensland — a 180-million-year-old ecosystem that predates the Amazon by 10 million years. His radical truth: environmental action isn't only something rich people can afford. Sustainability must be open-source, accessible, and local — or it won't work at all.

In this episode:

• How ClimateForce is regenerating the world's oldest rainforest using organic reforestation, AI, drone surveying, and biodiversity tracking
• What Barney learned from skiing 1,000km to the South Pole powered entirely by clean technologies
• Why nature regeneration requires combining cutting-edge ClimateTech with indigenous knowledge going back 16,000 years
• How open-sourcing sustainability solutions makes environmental action accessible to businesses, students, and families
• What a replicable model for tropical regeneration looks like — and how it can scale globally
• How to build resilient rural economies around ecosystem protection and carbon drawdown

The key insight: The activist is not the man who says the river is dirty. The activist is the man who cleans up the river. Barney Swan is in the river.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — From the South Pole to the Daintree: Barney's journey
• 0:X:XX — What is ClimateForce and why does it exist?
• 0:X:XX — Restoring 450 acres of the world's oldest rainforest
• 0:X:XX — Indigenous knowledge meets ClimateTech: the Daintree model
• 0:X:XX — How to make sustainability open-source and inclusive
• 0:X:XX — Building a scalable model for regeneration at global scale

👤 About Barney SwanBarney Swan is a sustainability advocate and the founder of the Australian non-profit ClimateForce, leading off-grid research and development projects around biodiversity, innovation, and agriculture solutions. In 2017, he skied 1,000 kilometres over 65 days to the South Pole, surviving on NASA-designed solar ice melters, lithium batteries, and biofuel made from waste — a carbon-positive journey that marked the launch of the ClimateForce challenge. Thefounderspirit He is now based in Far North Queensland, pioneering a venture to restore 527 acres of the Daintree, delivering organically managed geo-tagged trees tracked in an interactive biodiversity dashboard. LinkedIn ClimateForce has partnered with NTT DATA to leverage AI, data analysis, and predictive analytics to assess organic reforestation techniques and build models that regenerate ecosystems, protect biodiversity, and foster resilient local economies. NTT DATA Barney is the son of polar explorer Robert Swan, the first person to walk to both poles.

For anyone working in nature-based solutions, regenerative investment, or climate action — this episode is essential listening.

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This is one of the last interviews Hazel Henderson gave before her passing in 2022. She will be deeply missed.

Is ESG broken — and what would a truly science-based approach to investing look like?

In this special TBLI Talk, Robert Rubinstein sits down with the legendary Hazel Henderson — futurist, evolutionary economist, author of nine books, and one of the most original and courageous voices in the history of sustainable finance. Long before ESG was an acronym and long before sustainable investing was a marketing category, Hazel was building the intellectual and institutional foundations for a world where capital served life. Her radical truth: ESG, as currently practised, is not enough. What we need is a science-based approach to investing that reflects the true wealth of people and planet — not just what GDP can measure.

In this episode:

• Why ESG is failing to address the environmental and social challenges we face — and what must replace it
• What a science-based, biomimicry-inspired approach to investing actually looks like
• Why GDP is an obsolete measure of progress — and what the Calvert-Henderson Quality of Life Indicators offer instead
• How the Green Transition Scoreboard tracked over $10 trillion in investments in the green economy long before mainstream finance noticed
• What Ethical Biomimicry Finance reveals about regenerative investment models
• What Hazel saw — decades ahead of her time — that the financial world is only now beginning to understand

The key insight: The economy is a wholly owned subsidiary of the ecology. Until finance recognises that, all the ESG frameworks in the world will not be enough. Hazel Henderson spent fifty years trying to teach us this. The question is whether we are finally ready to learn.

⏱️ Episode Guide:

• 0:00 — Why ESG is not enough: the case for science-based investing
• 0:X:XX — GDP as fiction: measuring what actually matters
• 0:X:XX — The Green Transition Scoreboard and the green economy
• 0:X:XX — Ethical Biomimicry Finance: investing as if nature matters
• 0:X:XX — What the financial system must change to serve life
• 0:X:XX — Hazel's legacy and the work that remains

👤 About Hazel Henderson (1933–2022)Hazel Henderson was the founder of Ethical Markets Media and creator of the Green Transition Scoreboard, which tracked $10 trillion in investments in the green economy, and of Ethical Biomimicry Finance, a regenerative investment model. H Hazel Hendersoner articles appeared in over 250 journals including the Harvard Business Review, New York Times, and Christian Science Monitor, and her editorials were syndicated in 27 languages across 200 newspapers worldwide. S Ethicalmarketshe received the Reuters Award for Outstanding Contribution to Development of ESG & Impact Investing at TBLI Europe, and was honoured multiple times as one of the Top 100 Thought Leaders in Trustworthy Business Behavior by Trust Across America. S Ethicalmarketshe served as a science policy advisor to the US Office of Technology Assessment, the National Science Foundation, and the National Academy of Engineering, and received numerous honorary degrees. W Asbnetworkired magazine nominated her as one of the 50 people most likely to change the world. She was a giant — and a friend to TBLI.

For anyone who cares about the future of ESG, sustainable finance, and what it means to invest for a world worth living in — this episode is essential and essential listening.

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