All of this might be nonsense. Or it might not...

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What if you're not seeing the trapdoor? Jon explains why it can be so important to stop pushing.

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Our minds, bodies, and souls sometimes tell us different things. Raul suggests that maybe the feeling of "pull" occurs when all three are aligned. 

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Sam, do you know the difference between effortful effort and effortless effort?

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If you're asking the question, you're probably pushing. 

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Jon's argument for setting less goals. 

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Jon explains his theory that it's possible to end up at the same destination by “pushing” or by “being pulled”—one is just a lot more joyful. 

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My friend Jon Hiller recently turned me on to a powerful framework for thinking about decisions, life paths, goals, and dreams: It's the idea of "push vs pull energy", and it's already starting to change the way I approach the world.

So what exactly is push vs pull energy? What are some tangible examples? And why is it such an important and powerful idea to grasp? I sat down with co-living housemates Jon Hiller and Raul Espinoza – both of whom have come to embrace a life of "pull" – to explore the idea further. 

In this episode – the first of a multi-part mini-series – Jon and Raul define "push vs pull energy", and give tangible examples of each. 

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23 episodes into Season 2, I've decided to take a pause from weekly releases. Here's why.



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Taylor Pearson has spent the last decade researching and writing about how you can better invest your time and money in an uncertain world. He's the author of The End of Jobs: Money, Meaning and Freedom Without the 9-to-5, which illustrates how advancements in modern technology and a rapidly changing job market have made entrepreneurship the safest way to meaningful work, financial freedom, and economic resiliency.

I read The End of Jobs two years ago, and it was part of the catalyst for me to leave the U.S and begin living abroad. 

In this interview, Taylor and I discuss:

• Why Taylor became obsessed with navigating an uncertain world
• What's changed since Taylor first published The End of Jobs in 2015, and how Covid-19 will affect the job market moving forward
• The power of apprenticeships + how to get them
• The importance of developing useful skills and willingness to do "schlep work"
• The thing most people don't ask Taylor about the way he views the world

Follow Taylor on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TaylorPearsonMe

Show notes for this episode: 
www.radicallydifferentpodcast.com/episodes/the-power-of-apprenticeships-the-future-of-work-after-covid-19-and-navigating-uncertainty-with-the-author-of-the-end-of-jobs-taylor-pearson

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