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December 25, 2025After the Christmas Chaos: The Lightest Work Week of the Year for Pastors
The week after Christmas—those quiet days between December 26 and New Year’s—is often the lightest week of the year for pastors. After weeks of preparing Advent services, coordinating Christmas Eve worship, managing volunteers, and caring for members in a season that’s both joyful and emotionally draining, pastors finally exhale.
This week isn’t about laziness; it’s about recovery. The adrenaline of December ministry fades, the calendar clears, and the phone stops ringing. Even the most active church members are traveling, resting, or spending time with family. For once, the pastor doesn’t have to be “on.” Josh and Sam discuss why this week is so light and so important.
The Pace Finally Slows. Christmas is one of the busiest seasons in ministry. Extra services, rehearsals, and events fill the calendar. The week after gives pastors a rare moment to breathe.
Fewer Expectations. Meetings are paused, and most church programs are taking a break. There’s little pressure to perform or produce, allowing for mental and spiritual rest.
Reflection and Renewal. Many pastors use this time to reflect on the past year (what worked, what didn’t) and pray about vision and direction for the next one. It’s a built-in Sabbath for the soul.
Family and Faith Reconnect. Ministry often demands long hours away from home. This quiet week lets pastors be fully present with their families, remembering that before they shepherd others, they’re called to nurture their own household of faith.
Resources:
Doctor of Ministry, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Chaney & Associates
Church Answers University
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
Church Answers Central
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
The Doctor of Ministry at Southern Seminary is designed to strengthen both you and your church.
You’ll bring a real challenge from your ministry into the program—and through trusted faculty mentorship and applied theological study, you’ll develop a biblically grounded, practical plan that equips you to implement lasting change in your church.
This is theological scholarship applied where it matters most: your local ministry.
Study under faculty mentors who are both scholars and seasoned ministry leaders.
Sharpen your thinking, deepen your theology, and lead with clarity.
Build a network of peers who share your calling and understand your challenges.
Learn how at sbts.edu/dmin.

Lead Your Church. We’ll Handle the Numbers.
We have decades of experience serving churches across the country.
We’re church accountants who speak your language and understand your mission.
Gain clear financial insights to guide your ministry decisions with confidence.
Tailored solutions for churches of every size and stage.
Smart tools that save time and simplify finances so you can focus on ministry.
Stewardship matters. Your time is precious. We help with both.
Learn more today at chaneyassociates.com/churchanswers
The post After the Christmas Chaos: The Lightest Work Week of the Year for Pastors appeared first on Church Answers.
22 min
December 22, 2025Religious People Are Happier (And the Data Proves It)
Thom and Sam dive into Ryan Burge’s latest analysis of the 2023–2024 Pew Religious Landscape Survey, which asked nearly 37,000 Americans a simple question: “How happy are you with your life these days?” The results reveal one of the clearest and most consistent findings in social science.
Religious people report being happier than non-religious people.
While happiness is complex and influenced by many factors, the data shows that both religious belonging (identifying with a faith) and religious behavior (attending worship in person) are strongly correlated with higher life satisfaction. Online worship, while somewhat beneficial, doesn’t have the same impact as being physically present in a faith community.
In-Person Worship Boosts Happiness. Those who attend religious services weekly or more are nearly twice as likely to report being “very happy” as those who never attend. The most frequent attenders—about 8% of the population—are the happiest group by far.
Online Worship Helps, But Less So. Watching services online provides a slight happiness bump, but it’s no substitute for in-person connection. The data shows little difference in happiness between non-attenders and online-only participants.
Faith Matters Most for Younger Generations. Millennials and older members of Gen Z who attend church weekly are about twice as likely to report being “very happy” compared to their non-religious peers. The “happiness gap” is strongest among these younger cohorts.
The Relationship Persists Across Politics and Age. Even when controlling for ideology and age, religious people (liberal, moderate, or conservative) consistently report higher happiness levels than non-religious individuals.
The takeaway is simple but profound: faithful community and consistent worship participation are powerful predictors of well-being. Or, as Dr. Burge puts it, “Highly active religious people are happier than non-religious people. There’s no other way to spin this data.”
Resources:
Upward Sports
The One Year Bible
Tyndale House Publishers
Church Growth Services
“Religious People Are Happier Than Non-Religious People” by Ryan Burge
“The Real Facts About Online Church: Who Watches, Who Doesn’t” by Ryan Burge
“Revival of the Analog Church” by Thom S. Rainer – coming soon!
“Bowling Alone” by Robert Putnam (affiliate link)
Church Answers Platinum Membership
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
2026 – New Year, Greater Family Impact
A new year is the perfect time to dream bigger, reach farther, and make an even greater impact in your community. Upward Sports isn’t just about the game—it’s about bringing the whole family together.
As you plan for 2026, imagine creating experiences that connect kids, parents, and grandparents in a fun, welcoming environment. From cheering on the sidelines to hitting the court or field, every sport is an opportunity to build relationships, strengthen community, and share your church’s message of care and connection.
Whether it’s basketball, soccer, flag football, cheerleading, volleyball, baseball, pickleball, or even adult running, Upward Sports equips your church to reach families right in the heart of your neighborhood. All it takes is one passionate leader and a church ready to turn this new year into greater impact.
Start today at Upward.org/ChurchAnswers

There is something powerful about walking through the Bible at the same time. When everyone is reading the same Scripture each day, conversations change. Hearts open. People feel connected—not just to God, but to each other.
One Year Bibles are designed to guide readers through the entire Bible in 365 days.
It is one reading a day, and by the end of the year, you will have gone through the entire Bible together—one body, moving in one direction, through one story.
It is more than a reading plan. It is a way to build unity, deepen discipleship, and create shared momentum to know God and each other more.
Perfect for small groups, Bible studies, Sunday School classes, and other connection points.
Find a One Year Bible for your community at TheOneYearBible.com.
The post Religious People Are Happier (And the Data Proves It) appeared first on Church Answers.
23 min
December 18, 2025Unbelievable: 72% of Churches Have No Marriage Ministry!
Churches help prepare couples for marriage and rescue them when things fall apart, but what happens in between? That middle space—the “fine zone”—is where most couples slowly drift while everyone assumes they’re okay.
The truth is, fine isn’t faithfulness. It’s fatigue. And most churches don’t have a plan for discipling marriages before they reach the breaking point. Sam interviews Brad Rhoads of Grace Marriage to find out more. Grace Marriage is helping churches change that by creating pathways for ongoing marriage discipleship, not just crisis care.
The Marriage Gap Is Real. Most couples aren’t falling apart; they’re simply drifting apart. Without ongoing discipleship, “fine” becomes the silent decline that weakens families and churches.
Marriage Ministry Needs a Reframe. Seventy-two percent of churches have no structured marriage ministry. It’s not about adding another program; it’s about treating marriage discipleship like children’s or youth ministry: regular, intentional, and mission-critical.
Healthy Marriages Multiply Health Everywhere. When couples grow in grace, it transforms their homes, strengthens the church, and becomes a powerful witness to the watching world.
The bottom line: Don’t just pray for marriages, disciple them. When churches invest in marriage health, everything else begins to thrive.
Resources:
Doctor of Ministry, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Chaney & Associates
Grace Marriage – FREE eBook, “Discipling Marriages”
Church Answers Central
The Hope Initiative
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
Episode Sponsors:
The Doctor of Ministry at Southern Seminary is designed to strengthen both you and your church.
You’ll bring a real challenge from your ministry into the program—and through trusted faculty mentorship and applied theological study, you’ll develop a biblically grounded, practical plan that equips you to implement lasting change in your church.
This is theological scholarship applied where it matters most: your local ministry.
Study under faculty mentors who are both scholars and seasoned ministry leaders.
Sharpen your thinking, deepen your theology, and lead with clarity.
Build a network of peers who share your calling and understand your challenges.
Learn how at sbts.edu/dmin.

Lead Your Church. We’ll Handle the Numbers.
We have decades of experience serving churches across the country.
We’re church accountants who speak your language and understand your mission.
Gain clear financial insights to guide your ministry decisions with confidence.
Tailored solutions for churches of every size and stage.
Smart tools that save time and simplify finances so you can focus on ministry.
Stewardship matters. Your time is precious. We help with both.
Learn more today at chaneyassociates.com/churchanswers
The post Unbelievable: 72% of Churches Have No Marriage Ministry! appeared first on Church Answers.
22 min
December 15, 2025NEW Research: What Really Matters in Theological Education?
For decades, seminaries have promoted the ideal—full-time, on-campus study in a traditional academic setting. But for most adults pursuing ministry training, that ideal simply isn’t practical. New research reveals a clear tension between what people would love to do and what they can realistically manage. Theological education thrives when schools position themselves as a bridge between the ideal and the practical, maintaining depth and quality while removing unnecessary barriers. Sam interviews Dr. Andy Miller, from Wesley Biblical Seminary, about four key points shaping the future of seminary enrollment.
Flexibility is essential. Students want fully online programs with strong asynchronous options so they can study on their own schedule and pace. Fewer than one in ten prefer entirely in-person classes.
Timeline matters. Adult learners, most over 30 and many over 45, are looking for clear, accelerated paths to completion. Programs that respect their time with realistic workloads and transfer credits stand out.
Affordability is non-negotiable. Half of respondents said cost is a major barrier. Creative financial solutions like payment plans and scholarships are key.
The church connection. Theological education isn’t just about degrees; it’s about equipping people in the pews for ministry. By understanding what’s practical for lay leaders and pastors alike, seminaries can better serve the mission of the church.
The takeaway: the future of theological education belongs to schools that meet students where they are—flexible, focused, and financially accessible—while staying deeply rooted in the mission of preparing faithful leaders for the church.
Resources:
The One Year Bible
Tyndale House Publishers
Upward Sports
Wesley Biblical Seminary
Church Answers Platinum Membership
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
There is something powerful about walking through the Bible at the same time. When everyone is reading the same Scripture each day, conversations change. Hearts open. People feel connected—not just to God, but to each other.
One Year Bibles are designed to guide readers through the entire Bible in 365 days.
It is one reading a day, and by the end of the year, you will have gone through the entire Bible together—one body, moving in one direction, through one story.
It is more than a reading plan. It is a way to build unity, deepen discipleship, and create shared momentum to know God and each other more.
Perfect for small groups, Bible studies, Sunday School classes, and other connection points.
Find a One Year Bible for your community at TheOneYearBible.com.

Bring the Game to Your Church
From basketball and cheerleading to soccer, flag football, volleyball, baseball, adult running—and now pickleball for middle and high schoolers—Upward Sports offers leagues for every interest and age. Flexible and family-friendly, these experiences give your church the tools to engage your community, connect families, and create lasting memories. As the world’s largest Christian youth sports organization, partnering with over 1,800 churches nationwide, Upward Sports is ready to help you launch a first-class, organized, and intentional league.
Learn more at www.Upward.org/ChurchAnswers.
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26 min
December 11, 2025Non-Churchy Looking Churches: The Advantages of Big-Box Church Architecture
In this follow-up episode, we examine the other side of the conversation—the rise of big-box church architecture. Often found in converted retail spaces or new multipurpose campuses, these designs emphasize functionality, flexibility, and accessibility. They reflect a different theology of space, one that prioritizes mission, efficiency, and comfort over formality. Sam interviews Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group.
Function over Form. Big-box churches maximize every square foot, using open floor plans for worship, community events, and ministries throughout the week.
Accessibility and Affordability. These buildings are cost-effective, quick to build or repurpose, and often located in high-traffic areas with ample parking, making them easy to find and attend.
Welcoming and Familiar. The casual, “non-churchy” feel can help visitors relax and engage, especially those intimidated by traditional sanctuaries.
Mission-Driven Flexibility. By prioritizing multipurpose use, big-box churches embody a missional posture, meeting people where they are and serving communities in practical ways.
In the end, architecture isn’t just about aesthetics; it’s about mission. Whether it’s a stained-glass cathedral or a repurposed warehouse, the real question is: Does this space help people encounter Christ and His church?
Resources:
Doctor of Ministry, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Chaney & Associates
Brown Church Development Group
Should Churches Look Churchy? The Advantages of Traditional Architecture
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
Church Answers Central
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
The Doctor of Ministry at Southern Seminary is designed to strengthen both you and your church.
You’ll bring a real challenge from your ministry into the program—and through trusted faculty mentorship and applied theological study, you’ll develop a biblically grounded, practical plan that equips you to implement lasting change in your church.
This is theological scholarship applied where it matters most: your local ministry.
Study under faculty mentors who are both scholars and seasoned ministry leaders.
Sharpen your thinking, deepen your theology, and lead with clarity.
Build a network of peers who share your calling and understand your challenges.
Learn how at sbts.edu/dmin.

Lead Your Church. We’ll Handle the Numbers.
We have decades of experience serving churches across the country.
We’re church accountants who speak your language and understand your mission.
Gain clear financial insights to guide your ministry decisions with confidence.
Tailored solutions for churches of every size and stage.
Smart tools that save time and simplify finances so you can focus on ministry.
Stewardship matters. Your time is precious. We help with both.
Learn more today at chaneyassociates.com/churchanswers
The post Non-Churchy Looking Churches: The Advantages of Big-Box Church Architecture appeared first on Church Answers.
23 min
December 08, 2025Should Churches Look Churchy? The Advantages of Traditional Architecture
In this episode, we explore why traditional church architecture still resonates deeply with people, even those who rarely attend church. A recent research project found that 90% of Americans want church buildings to be “easily identifiable.” Sam interviews Todd Brown and Isaac Brown of Brown Church Development Group to find out more.
Architecture Communicates Theology. Traditional designs (soaring ceilings, stained glass, and symbolic layouts) visually proclaim the transcendence and holiness of God.
Sacred Space Inspires Reverence. Beautiful, enduring architecture invites worshipers to look upward and inward, fostering awe and contemplative worship.
Connection to History. Traditional spaces remind congregations they are part of a story stretching back centuries, anchoring believers in continuity and shared faith.
Beauty as Outreach. Research suggests that even the unchurched and younger generations are drawn to “churchy” spaces. The timeless beauty of sacred architecture can serve as a quiet invitation to explore the gospel.
Traditional architecture has always been more than just design; it’s a visual theology. It shapes how people encounter God and community.
Resources:
Upward Running
Upward Sports
The One Year Bible
Tyndale House Publishers
Brown Church Development Group
Non-Churchy Looking Churches: The Advantages of Big-Box Church Architecture
Church Answers Platinum Membership
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
Upward Running for Your Small Group
Turn your small group into a community on the move! Upward Running helps adults go from the couch to completing a 5K together. You provide the run coach, and we’ll equip them with training plans, resources, and support to lead well. It’s a fun, healthy way to grow relationships, encourage one another, and experience fitness and fellowship together.
Learn more at Upward.org/Runcoach.

There is something powerful about walking through the Bible at the same time. When everyone is reading the same Scripture each day, conversations change. Hearts open. People feel connected—not just to God, but to each other.
One Year Bibles are designed to guide readers through the entire Bible in 365 days.
It is one reading a day, and by the end of the year, you will have gone through the entire Bible together—one body, moving in one direction, through one story.
It is more than a reading plan. It is a way to build unity, deepen discipleship, and create shared momentum to know God and each other more.
Perfect for small groups, Bible studies, Sunday School classes, and other connection points.
Find a One Year Bible for your community at TheOneYearBible.com.
The post Should Churches Look Churchy? The Advantages of Traditional Architecture appeared first on Church Answers.
22 min
December 04, 2025How to Handle Losing Your Church’s Biggest Financial Supporter
When a major donor or key financial supporter leaves a church, it can feel personal, unsettling, and even threatening to the ministry’s stability. But pastoral leadership during this moment matters immensely. On this episode, Josh and Sam walk through the practical steps pastors should take when the church’s largest giver steps away.
There is a 15% to 30% annual “churn rate” in just about every church. At some point, the biggest giver will be the one who exits.
Don’t panic. But work quickly.
Understand the reason why the key giver is leaving.
Should you work to retain the key giver or not?
Don’t take anything personally. Focus on fixing any potential problems.
Understand the impact on your cash flow.
What is the pattern of their giving: weekly, annually, or monthly?
Do you need to make mid-year budget changes?
Use your polity to your advantage.
Communicate clearly with your church and allow others to fill the gaps.
Trust God’s provision above anything else.
Resources:
Doctor of Ministry, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Chaney & Associates
Church Answers University
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
Church Answers Central
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
The Doctor of Ministry at Southern Seminary is designed to strengthen both you and your church.
You’ll bring a real challenge from your ministry into the program—and through trusted faculty mentorship and applied theological study, you’ll develop a biblically grounded, practical plan that equips you to implement lasting change in your church.
This is theological scholarship applied where it matters most: your local ministry.
Study under faculty mentors who are both scholars and seasoned ministry leaders.
Sharpen your thinking, deepen your theology, and lead with clarity.
Build a network of peers who share your calling and understand your challenges.
Learn how at sbts.edu/dmin.

Lead Your Church. We’ll Handle the Numbers.
We have decades of experience serving churches across the country.
We’re church accountants who speak your language and understand your mission.
Gain clear financial insights to guide your ministry decisions with confidence.
Tailored solutions for churches of every size and stage.
Smart tools that save time and simplify finances so you can focus on ministry.
Stewardship matters. Your time is precious. We help with both.
Learn more today at chaneyassociates.com/churchanswers
The post How to Handle Losing Your Church’s Biggest Financial Supporter appeared first on Church Answers.
24 min
December 01, 2025Small-Church Breakout Growth: The Incredible Story of First Baptist Caldwell, NJ
God has done something remarkable at First Baptist Church in Caldwell, NJ. They have limited space and limited parking. However, through Upward Sports, the church has developed a large outreach ministry within the community. Hundreds of children participate, and the church is reaching people from diverse backgrounds. Sam interviews Pastor Travis Clark to reveal exactly what happened.
Resources:
The One Year Bible
Tyndale House Publishers
Upward Sports
First Baptist Church (Caldwell, NJ)
Church Answers Platinum Membership
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
There is something powerful about walking through the Bible at the same time. When everyone is reading the same Scripture each day, conversations change. Hearts open. People feel connected—not just to God, but to each other.
One Year Bibles are designed to guide readers through the entire Bible in 365 days.
It is one reading a day, and by the end of the year, you will have gone through the entire Bible together—one body, moving in one direction, through one story.
It is more than a reading plan. It is a way to build unity, deepen discipleship, and create shared momentum to know God and each other more.
Perfect for small groups, Bible studies, Sunday School classes, and other connection points.
Find a One Year Bible for your community at TheOneYearBible.com.

2026 – New Year, Greater Family Impact
A new year is the perfect time to dream bigger, reach farther, and make an even greater impact in your community. Upward Sports isn’t just about the game—it’s about bringing the whole family together.
As you plan for 2026, imagine creating experiences that connect kids, parents, and grandparents in a fun, welcoming environment. From cheering on the sidelines to hitting the court or field, every sport is an opportunity to build relationships, strengthen community, and share your church’s message of care and connection.
Whether it’s basketball, soccer, flag football, cheerleading, volleyball, baseball, pickleball, or even adult running, Upward Sports equips your church to reach families right in the heart of your neighborhood. All it takes is one passionate leader and a church ready to turn this new year into greater impact.
Start today at Upward.org/ChurchAnswers
The post Small-Church Breakout Growth: The Incredible Story of First Baptist Caldwell, NJ appeared first on Church Answers.
23 min
November 27, 2025Why You Should Leave Your Church (A Pastor’s Perspective)
Most of the time, church hopping for convenience (better music, cooler programs, or a coffee bar) reveals more about our consumer culture than about spiritual growth. But Sam and Josh explain that there are also good, biblical, and even necessary reasons to leave one church for another.
Geography – When you move to a new city or neighborhood, find and commit to a local church where you can serve and be known.
Theology – If your church changes its beliefs, or you come to hold different convictions, it may be wise to join a congregation that aligns with your understanding of Scripture.
Family – Families grow stronger when they worship together. Whether it’s a blended family or aging parents moving in, unity in one church matters.
Abandonment – Sadly, some believers are pushed out or mistreated. If that happens, seeking a healthy, gospel-centered church is not wrong. It’s healing.
Life Stage – As life changes, so can your church needs. Proximity, health, or family rhythms can make another congregation the better fit.
Leaving a church should never be casual, but sometimes, it’s faithful. In this episode, the co-hosts remind everyone that the goal isn’t to chase comfort but to stay rooted where God can use you and your family for kingdom growth.
Resources:
“Leadership in a Chaotic World” by Dr. Andrew Walker, Dr. Justin Irving, and Dr. Jeremy Pierre
Doctor of Ministry, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary
Join Platinum for 1-on-1 and group coaching with Sam. Email [email protected]
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
Church Answers Central
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
If you’re feeling the weight of leadership in today’s unstable world, you’re not alone.
Southern Seminary is offering a free ebook called Leadership in a Chaotic World—written by trusted faculty to equip pastors with biblical clarity, character, and conviction.
It’s a short, practical guide from Dr. Andrew Walker, Dr. Justin Irving, and Dr. Jeremy Pierre to help you lead well in the midst of cultural pressure, spiritual fatigue, and ministry complexity.
Download it for free.
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24 min
November 24, 2025The Burge Report: How Do Pastors Actually End Up in Ministry?
In this episode, Sam and Ryan Burge discuss how pastors become pastors. Using data from the National Survey of Religious Leaders, the cohosts reveal that clergy often come to ministry through winding, unconventional paths—many after careers in other fields. Far from being single-focused, pastors frequently juggle multiple responsibilities: leading congregations, working as chaplains, and even holding non-ministry jobs. The numbers reveal both the beauty and burden of this calling: most clergy work 50+ hours a week, with a quarter clocking over 60. Yet despite financial pressures and demanding schedules, these leaders remain deeply committed to serving their communities and churches.
Unconventional Paths to Ministry: Two-thirds of clergy had another career before entering ministry, highlighting that few go directly from Bible college or seminary into full-time leadership.
Rising Through the Ranks: About a quarter of clergy were already on staff at their congregation before becoming the senior leader, and one in five began as lay members before stepping into paid roles.
Bi-Vocational Realities: Nearly one-third of clergy hold outside jobs, often out of financial necessity. Others serve multiple congregations or work as chaplains in hospitals, schools, prisons, or nursing homes.
The Income Factor: Clergy earning under $50,000 per year are much more likely to seek outside work, but once they cross that threshold, side jobs drop dramatically as full-time ministry with benefits becomes possible.
The Heavy Workload: On average, clergy work 47–50 hours a week across all roles, and a significant share—about 25%—report working 60 hours or more.
Resources:
Rooted
Upward Sports
“The Many Jobs of a Religious Leader” by Ryan Burge
Ryan Burge
Church Answers Platinum Membership
FREE Research Report! New Surprising Insights
The Hope Initiative
Episode Sponsors:
The Rooted experience can help you create a discipleship culture that connects your people and leads to ongoing life change in Jesus. Rooted is…
A proven plan for helping people connect to God, their church, and their purpose
A sustainable way to launch groups
An approach to discipleship that helps people step out of their comfort zones and experience life-changing rhythms of discipleship
An opportunity to change the culture of your church
Visit experiencerooted.com/churchanswers for free resources to help you learn more, including the What is Rooted? video and a free download of the Rooted experience framework and Rooted Workbook sample.

Start Preparing Now for 2026! Sports that Bring People Together.
Start preparing now for 2026 with sports that bring people together! As you look ahead to what’s next in your ministry, consider creating an outreach strategy that offers a warm invitation to the whole family—using sports as that natural and powerful invite. Whether it’s basketball, soccer, flag football, cheerleading, volleyball, baseball, pickleball, or even running for adults, Upward Sports is ready to equip your church to reach families right in the heart of your community. All it takes is one passionate leader and a church ready to make an impact.
Learn more at www.Upward.org/ChurchAnswers.
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24 min