Joe Joe Morris grew up in an extremely strict religious environment that gave him a harsh and fearful view of God. Raised within Mennonite and Hutterite communities, his faith was built on rules, judgment, and shame.

But everything changed the day he nearly died.

During a powerful near-death experience, Joe Joe says he encountered God in the throne room of heaven - and the God he met was nothing like the one he thought he knew.

In this powerful conversation, John Burke talks with Joe Joe about the difference between religion and relationship, and how encountering God's love completely transformed his life. 

If you've ever struggled with religion, felt burned by legalism, or wondered what God is really like, Joe Joe's story may change how you see faith.