Rob and Steve have an amazing chat with actors Blair, Will and Mike about what it's really like being and living the actors life!
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00:00 Intro to The Reality of Fame and Famine - Living as an actor. Why do we act?
02:25 Why are we attracted to acting?
03:00 Living in an imaginary world. Escapism and imagination.
04:02 Losing your imagination as you grow older.
04:44 Acting started to make sense.
05:05 A script helps to express our own inner meaning and feelings.
05:43 What is acting?
06:00 Telling a story truthfully and then comes the character.
06:30 Acting is truth.
07:01 Good acting is standing there in your truth and being honest.
07:40 Philip Seymour Hoffman and his truthful performance and vulnerability.
08:31 Vulnerability is a key universal emotion.
09:00 Being brave, it's like a mirror to our own self.
09:37 Acting is not about lying.
09:54 Believing your own lies and the capacity to lie.
10:40 Being aware and knowing who you really are.
11:08 Acting serving a deeper purpose?
11:45 Acting is not self-indulgent and shouldn't be seen as therapy.
12:12 Ultimately, it's about the audience.
12:37 Story about acting class.
13:10 Becoming a better person through the process of learning acting.
13:47 Empathy and understanding the emotions.
14:10 What's the motivation for acting? Is it to become famous?
14:49 I remember wanting to become famous and growing out of it.
15:31 Loving film and relating to others through film.
15:52 This job ain't gonna make you famous most of the time.
16:26 Wanting to be famous for the wrong reasons.
16:56 Digging deeper into wanting to be famous and why? Being validated and insecurity.
17:38 Every actor is insecure at some level. Actors on Actors series. Anthony Hopkins on being insecure.
18:26 Starting off with the love of acting.
19:01 Starting at Shortland St and the shift to being driven by ego. Facing rejection.
19:41 True Life Stories and looking back at the memories.
20:25 Watching yourself on TV is horrible the first time!
21:03 I thought I was fired from Shortland St!
21:10 Acting is important to humanity.
21:31 Going to the cinema is like the flicker of the campfire analogy.
22:05 Going back in time and learning from a past acting class.
22:43 Watch your performance to learn.
23:22 Being able to focus on your good points vs your negatives.
23:50 Kissing scene and practicing on myself with a mirror!
24:37 Shortland St is like the Olympics of acting.
25:22 Handling fame and the trouble it brings.
25:48 Being on TV in NZ. Being recognizable and buying into the hype.
26:25 Shortland St back in the 90's - it was a crazy time.
27:58 Getting older and changing the outlook of fame.
28:49 Fame is not them, but a by-product of the industry.
29:29 Awkward elevator conversations.
30:21 Endoscopy story and being recognized.
31:10 Handling recognition and dealing with it well.
32:51 Being a parent changed me and how I treated people.
33:13 Getting joy from meeting someone well known.
33:33 I wish everyone could experience a little bit of being a celebrity.
34:15 Hierarchy positions on set? Any assholes?
35:04 Good time on Ladies Night??
35:28 Americans were full on, on set. A cultural thing?
36:24 Kiwi vs American way of being.
36:46 Working with Tommy Lee Jones. Kiefer Sutherland.
37:41 Being on set in NZ is more of a flat hierarchy.
38:15 The casting process and tips or special things you do?
38:43 Changing your mindset on auditions. Enjoy it.
39:54 Auditions and two lessons. Realising the part was mine to lose. Taking your time.
41:35 Talking to actors who say this casting agent hates me! They want you to be the one!
42:37 Getting into the acting industry and failing to understand? Marathon vs Sprint.
43:17 Treating every job as though it was your last one. Enjoying the job you are on.
43:50 No single job is the one.
44:26 Giving wisdom back to your younger self.
44:52 I'd slap myself on the face and give him a check.
45:44 Caring about what people think and being someone I wasn't. Be authentic.
46:30 Prepare as though your life depends on it, then don't give a shit.
47:12 Handling rejection. Being turned down 9 times out of 10.
48:21 Taking it personal when you were younger.
48:39 Basing self worth on being employed as an actor.
49:00 The perception there is not enough work out there. More projects now?
49:52 Social media and networking. Missing out on work whilst on holiday.
51:11 Self tapes and getting work. Kirk Douglas story. Impressions.
52:00 The lure of LA? Cracking acting in the US. Working overseas. Hollywood aspirations.
53:29 Meeting in LA. Why haven't I seen you before?
54:20 Australia didn't appeal. Here's why…
56:26 NZ has done significant work spreading roles for a range of ethnicities.
57:00 The renaissance of female characters.
57:19 Networking? An NZ, or more of an LA thing?
58:00 It's more business than show in LA?
59:30 False agendas?? Keeping it real in LA as a kiwi. Stunty story from LA.
1:01:02 Everyone's trying to use everyone.
1:01:48 Money and survival as an actor. Not paying the bills?
1:02:41 Ladies Night back on???
1:03:16 It got really tough for a while living a cafe lifestyle.
1:04:05 You just can't live off acting alone here. Living in the real world helps.
1:04:44 Being in an actors bubble.
1:05:10 Having a work ethic and being motivated, staying busy.
1:05:55 We go through cycles and seasons.
1:06:09 I was un-castable for a while.
1:06:38 Realising I was an artist and creating my own work.
1:07:11 Harking back to old theatre companies. Going back to your roots.
1:07:31 MacBeth in Invercargill.
1:08:18 Looking back on your mistakes or failures.
1:09:00 Dealing with your flaws and taking responsibility.
1:10:00 Actors didn't want to work with me.
1:10:44 Being a good person and brave enough to show your real self.
1:11:21 I love playing assholes.
1:11:52 "Show the ugly".
1:12:24 Most important qualities as an actor? Authenticity and Imagination.
1:13:07 Acting processes.
1:13:35 Don't take it too seriously.
1:13:55 Actors doing things wrong with financial survival?
1:14:51 Being successful outside of acting.
1:15:20 There is one disaster I can recall…
1:15:57 Young actors coming through are on to it, and have so much confidence.
1:16:27 NZ culture has changed and theres more chance of being in front of camera.
1:17:06 Kiwi culture more accepted worldwide. Taiki Waititi. Flight of the Conchords.
1:17:40 Internet influence.
1:18:04 No fear from the younger generation now.
1:18:38 The incredible young men on the Head High tv series.
1:18:55 Looking back at our generation, was it really that different?
1:19:50 Having a sense of entitlement.
1:20:21 Having things handed to you and being exposed to the world. The Youtube generation.
1:21:31 Any genre you don't like? Musical theatre.
1:22:37 Appreciating the talent of acting, singing, dancing.
1:23:10 Genre you'd most like to do?
1:23:45 Loving The Soprano's.
1:24:19 Film CV reads like a low lights of peoples careers! Get a break in film.
1:25:00 Hardest genres are comedy and horror.
1:26:00 As a teacher of acting what are people doing wrong in auditions?
1:26:37 Getting back to your neutral.
1:27:16 Work out who you are and make choices specific to who you are.
1:28:10 Owning your own individuality.
1:28:54 Brad Pitt - look how he moves. Imagining his first audition.
1:29:54 Acting as being withdrawn or having no energy.
1:30:15 Introverted energy and your range of emotions.
1:31:15 Energy is a really big thing. It's not about lack of energy.
1:32:03 Think of it as dials.
1:32:38 Without doing anything and being interesting.
1:33:10 Energy needs to be 'up, forward and out' to be interesting.
1:33:38 The most interesting actors on Suits.
1:34:21 An inherent quality, or can it be taught?
1:35:05 Teaching good impulses and choices.
1:36:00 Our thanks to Blair Strang, Will Wallace and Mike Edwards for joining us on Reality Hub.