Dennis visits the Burbank office of Doug Ross, founder of Evolution Media, the company behind such hit reality shows as Botched, The Real Housewives of Orange County, The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Vanderpump Rules and many others. Doug talks about how Botched came to be, the teens-at-camp show Bug Juice that started his career, working on the first seasons of Big Brother and Fear Factor then getting unceremoniously let go and how he manages to be a decent person in a cut-throat business. There's also lots of Houeswives talk--how he deals with all the personalities, which housewife makes him laugh, getting calls from Housewives at all hours and the shocking accident that shook up the recent season of Orange County. Other topics include: the advice he got from Norman Lear, the first time he saw a dirty magazine, the coolest place he's gotten to go for work and how he manages to stay sane in an insane business. www.evolutionmedia.com