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Reality with Bruce de Torres 37 Bart Sibrel

Bart Sibrel is an award-winning filmmaker, writer, and investigative journalist who made the astonishing film, A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE MOON, where he presents compelling evidence that the Apollo 11 moon landing was a hoax. It can be seen on his site, Sibrel.com.

In his memoir, MOON MAN: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List, Bart recounts the making of his film and the attempts to silence him and he names the military base where the first "moon landing" was filmed and the fifteen government scientists and officials who were present, including President Lyndon B. Johnson.

Summary

The thing is to keep an open mind and be willing to be wrong. That’s the problem of pride, the unwillingness to be wrong.

Working in the news department at NBC years ago, Bart was told by a man who had worked on Apollo at NASA that we did not go to the moon, because we couldn’t develop the technology to do so, and we still can’t. They bluffed and pretended to go.

The more Bart looked, the more suspicious it became. The federal government controlled the TV images shown to the world. The flight director said, in the Houston command center, you can’t tell the difference between a real flight and a simulation.

The public wants to believe it was real. They don’t want to hear it was just propaganda. The faking is more profound than if they had actually gone.

Bart was very slow to believe it was staged. But a man who built rockets for NASA told him it was fake and gave him a million dollars to expose it, so he studied it and eventually made A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE MOON and other films and a book.

Four Incontrovertible Proofs we didn’t go to the moon:

One –we can’t go today, but supposedly went 50 years ago, with one-millionth of the computer power in a cell phone. Technology improves, it doesn’t retrograde. Technology is never more advanced in the past than it is in the present. The Van Allen radiation belts around the earth prevent us from leaving. We can’t launch a rocket with enough lead to protect humans. It would be too heavy to lift. All human orbits have been around 250 miles high. The radiation belts start at one thousand miles high.

Two – photos on the moon have shadows going in many directions – impossible on the moon with one light source, the sun. Proof of multiple light sources, a non-moon location.

Three – classified footage (seen in A FUNNY THING HAPPENED ON THE WAY TO THE MOON) shows the Apollo 11 astronauts faking being halfway to the moon, while we see, at the end, that they are actually in orbit around the earth, 3 days into the mission. They never left earth’s orbit.

Four – an eyewitness, the head of security at Cannon Air Force base, confessed on his death bed that the landing was filmed there in 1968, with President Johnson in attendance on the first day – and this man confessed to killing a co-worker who was going to reveal the secret to the press.

Extra “proof”– at a 2023 AI conference, Google’s high-powered fake-photo-detection system declared China’s 2014 moon surface pictures authentic, but every Apollo picture on the moon was found to be fake. Putin was there. Not surprised. Bart says Russia and China know we didn’t go and are blackmailing the US for technology in exchange for their silence.

Why did they fake it instead of admitting they couldn’t do it? Bart says, “Because they could.” They saw that they could pull it off. (Other possible reasons: the profit to contractors would be bigger since they wouldn’t have to make technology that would actually send humans to the moon and back. LBJ's ego.)

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 36 Matthew Ehret

Matthew Ehret is a journalist, co-founder of the RisingTideFoundation.net, Editor-in-Chief of Canadian Patriot Review, Senior Fellow at the American University of Moscow, and author of two book-series, THE UNTOLD HISTORY OF CANADA and THE CLASH OF THE TWO AMERICAS, and the article series, HOW TO SAVE A DYING REPUBLIC, which can be found at MatthewEhret.substack.com.

We discussed the hidden history revealed at RisingTideFoundation.net, the ongoing American Revolution – national sovereignty versus colonialism, exploitation, intentional impoverishment, the power of Alexander Hamilton’s American System of economics, what Russia and China are doing right, and the inspiring greatness of President John F. Kennedy.

The purpose and content of the Rising Tide Foundation and Canadian Patriot Review, run by Matt and his wife Cynthia Chung. They began with short documentaries based on their articles. (Now many resources, lectures, etc.)

New film (on YouTube channel: Canadian Patriot Press) is THE ARCTIC: Theater of War or Global Cooperation?, which shows a lot of little-known history, such as Russia helping the Union win the Civil War by sending fleets to San Francisco and to New York to prevent England and France from helping the Confederacy, and illuminates the battle between closed systems and open ones, empire’s colonialism – extracting from subject nations their natural resources and preventing them from industrializing and developing their domestic economy and independence – and national sovereignty, the goal of Hamilton’s American System of economics with its investment in roads and canals (infrastructure) to allow all parts of a nation to trade together, tariffs to encourage a nation to make and consume its own domestic products, and available credit to encourage innovation and entrepreneurship.

The oligarchs create conflicts and forever wars, and stupefy superstitious people, to maintain their presence in and abuse foreign lands.

Matt encountered this approach to history around 2006 while struggling with the question, “Why might we not be doomed?” He had been dealing with the indications that 9/11 was perpetrated by forces within the US government and wondered, if so, how did that relate to the murders of JFK and Martin Luther King and the Vietnam War?

Before long you realize that it’s all connected, even going back to the murder of Lincoln. There’s an agenda to enslave the world by a malevolent movement among a certain grouping within the elite that is very inbred, that maintains certain bloodlines. “It goes back a long time, and it got me very demoralized.”

He encountered the movement of Lyndon LaRouche in around 2006. Matt couldn’t find justification for the slurs against him (political cult, antisemite, fascist). Rather, LaRouche made a lot of enemies “in just the right places.” He had developed a method of analysis into both science and physical economics that had an appreciation for human nature, which is what the oligarchy is apparently trying to suppress (our divine, creative nature) as they try to keep us locked into a closed system of finite scarcity, which goes back before discussion of building rail through the Arctic and connecting Asia and North America through the Bering Straight and before the American Revolution.

For centuries, if not millennia, there’s been a fight between two paradigms that see human beings in two completely different universes. “One I think is truthful and the other one is based on a lie.” The oligarchy would like us to believe we are made in the image of a closed, dead, dying universe which requires some form of hereditary overlords to manage the human zoo as we fight with our fellow animals in this jungle.

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 35 Alex Krainer

Alex Krainer, market analyst, researcher, trader and hedge fund manager since 1996, is founder of Krainer Analytics, creator of I-System Trend Following, and author of MASTERING UNCERTAINTY IN COMMODITIES TRADING; THE GRAND DECEPTION (only RedPill Press), and ALEX KRAINER’S TREND-FOLLOWING BIBLE. He can be followed at alexkrainer.substack.com.

We discussed:

The Venezuelan presidential election that globalists are trying to reverse by staging a color revolution. So obvious. We saw the same thing years ago there, and in Ukraine and many other places, the same playbook to subvert honest elections and demonize a government as communist or socialist, to frame the conflict as socialism versus capitalism.

It’s not that at all. It’s colonialism versus national sovereignty. In the 90s, before Hugo Chavez, Venezuela faithfully implemented the International Monetary Fund’s capitalist structural reforms, which made the country a “third world s---hole.” 80% were living in poverty. Water from your tap could be green, it could be brown. The economy was a typical colonial arrangement: exporting her natural resources, primarily oil, and importing pretty much everything else, dependent on imports.

Chavez was a reaction by the people against a system imposed on them that was highly dysfunctional, colonialism. This is what the Venezuelan people are fighting today. They have one of the world’s most valuable resources, heavy crude oil. The US interests want to get control over its resources. It’s regime-change by colonial powers against resource-rich nations.

“Free trade” and “globalization” are covers for colonial exploitation; the same thing America rebelled against in the American Revolution. It’s the same fight today. Basically, nothing is being produced domestically by the colonial subjects of the Western empire. The Western powers deliberately like to keep those nations poor, so they don’t prosper and compete with the Western economies. Keeping them in permanent poverty is a deliberate policy.

The US is the key battleground in the ongoing struggle for humanity. It’s a superpower in military, economic and political dimensions, with some viable democracy that is still important, like states rights and electing sheriffs at the local level. Politics really is local, and “I think there’s still some healthy democracy that’s alive and kicking at the local level in the US.” -Alex. This is causing a lot of problems for the globalists and why the US might be moving toward another civil war.

The hidden oligarchic network of vested interests infiltrates a nation and co-opts their economic, diplomatic and military powers so those nations carry water for these imperial interests. For example, the American people must support hundreds, maybe a thousand military bases around the world with no explanation of why this is necessary.

“The oligarchic interests behind empires are always the money-lending interests, the financiers, the global banking networks.” Alex explains how financiers turn the sale of a nation’s resources into financial flows that benefit themselves. The motive is to turn those resources into collateral. US military bases are in resource-rich countries to ensure that American banks and corporations get access to those resources.

“The US is the pivot power for the globalists, for the empire, so long as they control it. The imperial cabal is probably a network of individuals on the axis of Wall Street and the City of London.” They seem scared of Trump.  (Will he threaten to close the military bases, start trading with other nations as equal partners, and bring manufacturing back to the US, as Kennedy says he will if he becomes president?) 

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 34 Jeremy Hammond

Jeremy R. Hammond is an independent journalist and author who exposes propaganda meant to manufacture consent for criminal government policies. He can be followed at jeremyrhammond.com.

We discussed:

9/11’s official story made no sense. (Jeremy: our government had foreknowledge of 9/11. Bruce: it was an inside job.) No question that the collapse of Building 7 was a controlled demolition. 9/11 was allowed to happen to advance the neo-con agenda, including the Iraq war. Investigation led Jeremy to our Middle East foreign policy, central to which is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The government and media portray the US as an honest broker seeking peace for Israel and the Palestinians. “Nothing could be further from the truth.” The US really acts as Isael’s defender and advocate. Rather than pursue the two-state solutions, the US peace process always BLOCKS its implementation.

“Most of what people think they know about the conflict just isn’t true, because we’re inundated constantly with Zionist propaganda narratives.” Our military aid to Israel and Egypt is basically a subsidy to our military-industrial complex. Our media manufactures consent for US support of Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians. “Israel was established (in 1948) by ethnically cleansing most of the Arab population from their homes in Palestine.”

To understand the deception, one must understand the results of Israel’s 1967 war and UN Resolution 242, which said, per international law, that Israel must withdraw from the land it had seized from the Palestinians and others, back to the armistice lines of 1949, which are not borders. (To this day, Israel doesn’t technically meet the criteria for statehood under the 1933 Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States, because it doesn’t have legally defined borders.) Israel is in violation of UN Resolution 242. “Without US support, Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians could not continue.”

The peace process had Palestinians negotiating for how much land and sovereignty they might regain from ILLEGAL OCCUPIERS, contrary to the requirements of international law. In 1988 the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) agreed to the two-state solution, a huge concession, since it would have given them only 22% of their historic land from which they had been expelled.

RFK Jr’s support of Israel’s slaughter in Gaza has cost him support, including Jeremy’s. (Bruce, while pushing Kennedy for president, can’t stand his support of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, but hears Kennedy seeming more compassionate lately, talking about ending the violence in Gaza.)

Israel subjected its own people to the experimental Covid shots, seen by many as a crime against humanity, revealing more of the true malevolent nature of the Israeli regime. Jeremy has written a ton of articles about how God-awful the shots are.

There are a lot of adverse events from the Covid shots that have been covered up, neurological harms, cardiovascular harms, and “original antigenic sin,” which Jeremy defines. We’ve seen no research about the risk of death from the shots, no proof of their safety, just declarations that they are safe. There are no studies of “long-term health outcomes including all-cause mortality between people who are vaccinated according to recommendations and people who are totally unvaccinated."

(Bruce: the Covid shots have left a trail of dead and injured. See Edward Dowd’s book, CAUSE UNKNOWN: The Epidemic of Sudden Deaths in 2021 and 2022.)

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 33 Dr Naomi Wolf

Dr. Naomi Wolf is a bestselling author, columnist, and professor who can and should be followed at naomiwolf.substack.com. Her DailyClout.io (she is cofounder and CEO) empowers people with facts and independent, non-partisan opinion from all viewpoints and lets people weigh-in on legislation at the local, state and federal levels. (Its Bill Cam lets people search any state or federal bill, launch good bills and stop bad bills or have them changed, and its Communities is a surveillance-free, censorship-free alternative to Facebook.)

Her recent books, THE BODIES OF OTHERS and FACING THE BEAST, are must-reads, time capsules about the Covid era and its atrocities, which we must know and broadcast so we may protect ourselves, especially the targeted – women and children. Bruce: “There is so much heart and soul, there is so much human goodness, there is so much love in all your work, but especially in FACING THE BEAST.”

Her next book, THE PFIZER PAPERS, arrives in September. A record of “the greatest crime against humanity in recorded history,” it gives the map of how the malevolent force at the highest levels of government tried to kill us with the Covid response, especially the shots, and it gives life-saving information that can protect our health because it spells out the mechanisms of these poisons. “They knew they were killing people and they just kept going.”

For instance, so much of the damage done by the shots is inflammatory and carcinogenic, so do countervailing things.

Topics:

Dr. Wolf’s conviction that we’re in an incredibly metaphysical time, very “good-versus-evil,” almost Biblical. Witness the genocidal evidence in THE PFIZER PAPERS. Something very evil tried to get at humanity.

Joe Biden has been basically missing for five days (as of the date of this interview, July 22, 2024). No one is acting normally. None of the things you’d expect to see are happening. (Vice-president not reassuring the nation. Director of Secret Service stonewalling under questioning at a hearing.) “There’s clearly a civil war in the White House. There’s a battle over succession. Our enemies are seeing this. It’s a terrible national security risk.

Dr. Wolf predicted these kinds of things in an essay last week after the attempt against President Trump, which event has many unanswered questions that cast aspersions of incompetence, if not collusion, on forces meant to protect people like Trump. 

Book description of THE PFIZER PAPERS, coming September 2024:

“THE PFIZER PAPERS features new reports written by WarRoom/DailyClout research volunteers … based on the primary source Pfizer clinical trial documents released under court order and on related medical literature. The book shows in high relief that Pfizer’s mRNA COVID-19 vaccine clinical trial was deeply flawed and that the pharmaceutical company knew by November 2020 that its vaccine was neither safe nor effective. The reports detail vaccine-induced harms throughout the human body, including to the reproductive system; show that women suffer vaccine-related adverse events at a 3:1 ratio; expose that vaccine-induced myocarditis is not rare, mild, or transient; and, shockingly, demonstrate that the mRNA vaccines have created a new category of multi-system, multi-organ disease, which is being called “CoVax Disease.””

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 32
Mary Holland

Mary Holland is CEO of Children’s Health Defense (childrenshealthdefense.org), working to end the epidemic of chronic childhood diseases, hold those responsible accountable, and create safeguards so that these epidemics never happen again.

The enormity of the problem. The toxins in our food, air, water, vaccines, and by way of electromagnetic radiation More than half of American children struggle with one or more chronic health conditions: obesity, ADHD, life-threatening allergies, cancer, asthma, autism. There’s nothing more important than having healthy children. Our children are not healthy.

The problem is that this is very lucrative. The medical establishment, the media, NIH, FDA, CDC, all are engaged with the pharmaceutical industry to make and push new drugs. “They’re not really interested on some level in stopping these chronic conditions. They’re interested in making money off them, and they’re very, very lucrative.”

It’s really a racketeering paradigm. The bad actor creates the problem and then profits from the problem. The vaccines set up children to become adults who have life-long needs for pharmaceutical products, inhalers, insulin, autism medications. It’s a terrible paradigm for the country but great for pharma.

New to this? On the homepage, childrenshealthdefense.org, scroll down and click “Vaccines, Learn More,” childrenshealthdefense.org/vaccine-curriculum. All well-sourced, well-cited, factual information. “We also have our own science department. Our original science is published in peer-reviewed journals. Our four pillars are Education, Advocacy, Science and Litigation.” There’s something for everyone at CHD. Everybody learns differently.

“The science is becoming so much more robust that vaccines do more harm than good. They just do more harm than good. The science is just building more on that every single day and people need to know that.”

“This is not the first time that government and corporate power have colluded to tell us lies.” Remember, advertisements used to say that doctors recommended cigarettes.

CHD is at the forefront of litigation against censorship. The issue of government controlling the narrative is very important. The evil is being exposed. We are creating a consensus that we will not tolerate this. This is not the way we want to live. We are not going to submit to mandates. We are not going to have government tell us what is dangerous speech and what is misinformation.

By exposing the evil, we raise awareness about what really matters and help people align around life.

(From reformpharmanow.org: “Reform Pharma is an initiative of Children’s Health Defense. Our goal is to systematically identify and remove the corrupt mechanisms that the pharmaceutical industry has woven deep into our government, the media, and the healthcare system. Guided by our 10-Point Plan, we will restore healthcare integrity.”)

There are clear signs they are ramping up for bird flu. Moderna got $187M from government to work up its bird flu vaccine. BioNTech, who partnered with Pfizer for the Covid shot, projects that 90% of their revenue in Q4 will come from their bird flu vaccine. On Oct. 5 to 7 in Washington, DC, the International Bird Flu Summit will teach how to deal with 50% absenteeism and teach triage because people will supposedly be falling over dead. Very severe fearmongering.

No question that gain-of-function research has been done for decades on bird flu, much of it financed by the US government. “I fear there will be a scamdemic, a bird flu thing, this fall. Huge resources are being placed on the bird flu bet for the end of this year. That’s undeniable.”

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 31 Damon Ise

Damon Ise, a 50-year pilot and aviation professional, researched the 1999 death of John F. Kennedy Jr. and found a huge deception: the official story is a lie. John was a skilled pilot. The weather was fine around Martha’s Vineyard. An explosion brought down the plane.

John Jr. was assassinated.

Why? Most likely because he had accumulated credible evidence implicating former President George H. W. Bush in the assassination of John’s father, President Kennedy, in 1963 (“Cancelled checks. Pictures. The whole nine yards.”), part of the Gemstone Files, the Vegas Files, acquired through a man named True Ott, whose reputation is spotless.

This is apparently corroborated by Wayne Madsen, author and researcher, who was to be hired by John to take his evidence and lead an investigation into JFK’s death.

John told True Ott that he wanted to go to the White House.

John was a very experienced pilot (in contrast to the official story) and meticulous about safety.

He didn’t fly east from NJ over the ocean (official story). He flew north over the Hudson River, turned right at the Tappan Zee Bridge, and flew over the Connecticut coast, the safest route for a one-engine plane.

Records (later confiscated) prove that John called in, as required, throughout the flight. Media lied and said he didn’t. He was demonized for not submitting a flight plan. Media didn’t report an alternative procedure, often used by many, of using a service called Flight Following.

Flying in fine weather, no fog or haze disoriented him. He was flying by Visual Flight Rules. No need for flying by instruments.

Damon’s co-author found Interpol’s report on the crash. The plane was taken down by an explosion. The tail was severed. Witnesses heard the mid-air explosion. One man saw it.

The heavy engine in the front took the plane straight down.

Damon has co-written JFK JR., MARKED FOR DEATH: The Murder of America’s Prince. Wait for the revised edition coming out soon.

Damon obsessed about flying since a child. Went to flight school after high school. Became a pilot and flight instructor. Spent lots of time in Rhode Island and on Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket.

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 30 Martin Sieff

Martin Sieff is a senior fellow at the American University in Moscow (AUM) and was Adjunct Professor of Transnational Threats at Bay Atlantic University; Chief Foreign Correspondent for The Washington Times; Managing Editor, International Affairs, for United Press International, and UPI's chief news analyst for 10 years.

Highlights of our conversation:

“Lincoln is the true architect of industrial America,” which became the wonder of the world for more than a century. During FDR’s New Deal, the enormous productive power of industry and its ability to create wealth was harnessed to the public good. Industrialization must be combined with a policy of social responsibility.

Lincoln was a figure of enormous brilliance, dignity, intelligence and subtlety. He grew up with very little schooling. But he had the King James Bible and the works of William Shakespeare. “You could argue all of Western Civilization was based on them.” And he read them obsessively.

He became Illinois’ most successful railroad attorney. Carl Sandburg created the myth of Lincoln as a sensitive, Christ-like figure, a disservice to both. They didn’t merely preach that we should be nice to each other. Each was strong and determined and brave as they confronted dangerous and entrenched interests.

(Bruce urges people to read Sandburg’s six volumes for a rich picture of the times, lush, beautiful prose, and a huge variety of stories about Lincoln.)

Lincoln loved the American experiment, which gave ordinary people a chance to express their talents and rise in the world as no other civilization in history had.

There is a school of thought that crucifies Lincoln for violating the Constitution to fight and win the Civil War. That is a disservice to his greatness, especially his economics, his implementation of Alexander Hamilton’s “American System, by which the federal government encouraged manufacturing in order to create national wealth and secure national sovereignty in opposition to the British system of exploiting the world with colonialism, with imperial domination, preventing other countries from industrializing while taking their natural resources and calling their system “free trade.”

Tariffs protect and encourage a nation’s manufacturing, the consumption of its goods, and its wealth creation.

We’ve had the triumph of the British system in America for the last 40 years.

(See the RisingTideFoundation.net, the works of Anton Chaitkin, and Nancy Spannaus’s AmericanSystemNow.com and her books, HAMILTON VERSUS WALL STREET: The Cor Principles of the American System of Economics and DEFEATING SLAVERY: How Hamilton’s American System Showed the Way.)

Martin has received three Pulitzer Prize nominations for International Reporting. He has written nine books, most notably CYCLES OF CHANGE, a political history of the United States from Thomas Jefferson to Barack Obama. His seminars on American and World History can be seen on YouTube, on the channel: Rising Tide Foundation.

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 29 Dr Meryl Nass – An Extended Presentation on Bird Flu

Dr. Meryl Nass goes over the history of bird flu, the many things that don’t make sense in the narrative, and how we may already be in another plandemic.

“Under 500 humans are said to have died from H5N1 bird flu, around the world, since 1997.”

“US-paid scientists have been making bird flu viruses more contagious, more deadly and more infectious for humans since at least 2011.”

“At least 2 licensed bird flu vaccines may be deadly; what about the rest?”

“Jeremy Farrar has stoked fear of bird flu viruses for 20 years, along with others. This seems to have been part of a plan, for which his projects are now cashing in.”

“Jeremy Farrar is now the Chief Scientist at WHO, pushing for globalizing the use of unlicensed, fast-tracked vaccines with no liability in drafts of the IHR and pandemic treaty.”

Dr. Nass is a physician and researcher who proved that the world's largest anthrax epidemic, in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe), was due to biological warfare.

She had her license suspended for prescribing COVID medications that worked. She posts invaluable information at merylnass.substack.com and at DoorToFreedom.org.

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Reality with Bruce de Torres 28 Nancy Spannaus

Nancy Bradeen Spannaus has been studying American history for fifty years. She discusses her latest book, DEFEATING SLAVERY: Hamilton’s American System Showed the Way, written in part because she felt THE 1619 PROJECT of the New York Times was way off base with the idea that the arrival of slaves was the founding of the country.

Some highlights of our conversation:

We still have a big problem with race in this country. That must be acknowledged, and we must look where that came from and get our history straight in order to deal with it.

She also wanted to refute the attacks on Hamilton claiming that he was an enslaver.

We had the strongest anti-slavery movement in the world at the time of the American Revolution and immediately thereafter. Info and excerpts in her book show that.

Race became a question as a result of people who wanted to stay on top economically. For example, Virginia didn’t have public schools until 1870. The plantation class didn’t want educated blacks and they didn’t want educated whites. They didn’t want to spend the money on it (and didn’t want an uprising of people who wanted to change the entrenched economic system of the South).

Hamilton’s economics – ignored, maligned, misrepresented – served America’s ideals (all men are created equal and are endowed with certain inalienable rights … life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness) and let the federal government serve mankind’s quest for self-improvement.

Hamilton’s system would end slavery by letting us industrialize and leave the British system of merely supplying raw materials to the Empire.

Unfortunately, his industrialization program was sabotaged by the Jeffersonians who were elected in 1800. They became a combination of the South’s slavocracy and northern bankers and merchants who prospered by selling exports (cotton, prominently) to England, setting the nation irrevocably on course to the Civil War by 1833.

Jefferson repudiated government credit for manufacturing and investment in infrastructure intended to connect all the states through commerce (which would threaten the slave economy) and cut taxes until the military was at the mercy of even pirates in the Mediterranean.

The War of 1812 showed the weaknesses of Jefferson’s repudiation of Hamilton’s economics. The roads being unimproved, we couldn’t move troops from one place to another. We didn’t have supplies. We didn’t have the industries. Most of our gunpowder still came from Britain, even though we were in a war with them.

John Quincy Adams tried to put us back on track during his one-term presidency. Then Andrew Jackson became president in 1829 and he was basically a tool of that alliance between the New York banking-merchant group and the Richmond slavocracy, which served the British Empire’s colonial exploitation of the raw materials of other nations.

The British explicitly said all the way through this period that they were out to sabotage our having a manufacturing capability. “Stifle the manufacturers in the cradle,” said a member of the House of Lords in 1816. And you can find the same thing up to the Civil War.

People must understand the difference between having a financial system that promotes economic growth and individual flourishing versus a system of oppression, slavery and other kinds as well.

Can we create a society where the good of the individual is coherent with what’s good for the nation? Nancy believes that’s possible and necessary, but a lot of people don’t because they see that it relies on having good people in office and they doubt that can be accomplished or sustained.