Matthew McGregor spoke with Rosie Carter regarding her work in tracking the changing attitudes during the Corona virus outbreak. Far from what you would expect in this gloomy period, Rosie's polling found a rise in optimism, at at time of desperate economic outlooks. Amidst rolling news coverage of the disastrous pandemic, certain key indicators have actually improved. But what's behind the numbers? HOPE not hate's measure of these attitudes, and our analysis of their direction is something with which every antifascist should be concerned.