Many people nowadays would associate the word shame with the tv show Game of Thrones. The classic scene with Cersi and the nun walking down the street. But the reality is, while people were trying to FORCE shame onto someone else in this scene, only shame can be created by the person themselves. For this rebroadcast, Andy talks with guest host John Casey (@JohnCaseyDO) and guest Loice Swisher (@L_swish) about this vulnerable topic. Well worth a listen!