Damon Frank and Shauna McKenna Vick dive into Shauna's experiences as an interventionist, including her recent visit to treatment centers in Austin, Texas. They discuss the critical role of vetting these centers to ensure quality care for clients. The episode also covers the latest celebrity news, focusing on Justin Timberlake's DUI and its broader implications for those in recovery. Damon and Shawna explore the societal stigma celebrities face and the misconceptions around addiction. They also tackle the controversial use of ketamine for treatment-resistant depression and addiction, emphasizing the need for careful supervision.

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