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In the 17th episode of AI in Recruitment, host Martijn Hemminga takes us to the lively scene of TruAmsterdam, held at the Amsterdam offices of Jobsrepublic. He is joined by Bill Boorman and Eric van Bourgonje, who delve into how AI is reshaping recruitment. "For this generation, it’s super exciting", Boorman commented. "Skilled recruiters who know what they’re doing will be at a premium. The value will be in what you know, not what you do."

In the latest episode of AI in Recruitment, hosts Jasper Spanjaart and Martijn Hemminga dive into the rapidly evolving landscape of AI in recruitment. This episode not only showcases the finalists for the Benelux AI in Recruitment Award 2024, the announcement of the AI in Recruitment Outlook 2025, and also delves into recent AI developments and their broader implications.

Benelux AI in Recruitment Award 2024 finalists

The second edition of the Benelux AI in Recruitment Award highlights companies pushing boundaries with innovative AI applications. Six finalists were discussed, each demonstrating how technology can transform recruitment processes. Now, it's up to the expert jury to decide the winner. These are the finalists: 

1. ORANJEGROEP: Managing large-scale recruitment processes across ten countries with a small team was a challenge until ORANJEGROEP integrated Recrubo.ai with Carerix. Their AI solution automates the entire workflow, from translating job listings into multiple languages to scheduling interviews via WhatsApp. The impact? In just six months, three recruiters managed over 15,000 candidates—a testament to the power of AI-driven automation.
2. NoMilk2Day: Active in the Netherlands, Asia, and the US, NoMilk2Day implemented the Byner ATS platform, an AI-powered tool that automates interviews, generates transcripts, and even analyses candidates' personality traits. Their advanced AI models are tailored for psychometric analysis, enabling a deeper understanding of candidates' communication styles and competencies.
3. PostNL: Facing challenges like ghosting and competition for applicants, PostNL partnered with Scotty AI to create a digital recruiter, “Charlie.” This AI can handle up to 500,000 conversations simultaneously, screening candidates efficiently without bias and even cross-selling job opportunities—showcasing scalability without compromising candidate experience.
4. In2Dialog: Their AI-driven tool integrates seamlessly with phone and online conversations, summarising and analysing interviews to provide psychometric insights. It is a powerful addition for recruiters seeking data-driven evaluations of candidate suitability.
5. sympl: Designed for recruitment marketing campaigns, sympl’s SaaS solution uses AI to help HR professionals create and optimise campaigns, even without marketing expertise. The tool leverages data-driven algorithms and A/B testing, allowing recruiters to maximise their reach and effectiveness.
6. The Selection Lab: This finalist offers video assessments powered by generative AI in over 40 languages. These assessments measure personality and cognitive skills, creating a personalised and efficient screening process for high-volume recruitment scenarios.

About AI in Recruitment

In AI in Recruitment, co-hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart explore the benefits, challenges, and potential pitfalls of using AI to source, screen, and hire candidates.

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In the 15th episode of AI in Recruitment, hosts Jasper Spanjaart and Martijn Hemminga sat down with Laurens Waling, Chief Evangelist at 8vance, to discuss how technology is reshaping the way companies approach hiring. Waling's company, 8vance, specialises in using algorithms to match candidates with jobs. Watch or listen to the full episode. 

Rethinking recruitment

"We’re still not using AI to its full potential", Waling said early in the episode, setting the tone for the conversation. Founded in 2013, 8vance has been pioneering the use of data and algorithms to connect candidates and employers in new ways. But Waling noted that the industry has been slow to adapt to these changes.

The traditional model of recruitment — focused on reviewing CVs and job descriptions — has room for improvement, according to Waling. “When you ask a candidate to list their skills, they might give you 10 or 20. But our algorithms can identify up to 200 skills that candidates don’t even realise they have. This gives recruiters a deeper and more accurate understanding of a candidate’s abilities."

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In AI in Recruitment, co-hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart explore the benefits, challenges, and potential pitfalls of using AI to source, screen, and hire candidates.

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In the fourteenth episode, co-hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart do a deep-dive into Generative AI models not called ChatGPT: Claude, Perplexity and Baidu's Ernie Turbo. Which ones stand out?

AI in Recruitment Benelux Award returns!

To kick things off, the episode shared some thrilling news for the Benelux listeners. The entries for the AI in Recruitment Benelux Award are now open for the second time. "This award, inspired by our podcast, recognises innovative organisations in the Benelux that leverage AI to revolutionise recruitment", says Spanjaart.

Hemminga added to this excitement by reflecting on last year’s success. "Last year's winner was Knowledgemarker, and we're looking forward to seeing more groundbreaking entries this year. It's a fantastic opportunity to showcase your AI-powered recruitment tools and cases."

You can submit your entries until September 5, 2024, via recruitmenttech.nl/awards.

Diving into AI Models: Claude, Perplexity, and Ernie Turbo

The episode dives into three AI models not called ChatGPT: Claude, Perplexity and Baidu's Ernie Turbo.

1. Claude: Human-like texts

Claude's up first. "Claude is an AI language model developed by Anthropic. It comes in three versions: Haiku, Sonnet, and Opus. Haiku is a small, fast model, while Opus is a very large one. Interestingly, the update of the middle model, Sonnet, to version 3.5 made it more powerful than their largest model, Opus, and even surpassed ChatGPT 4.0 according to some specialists."

There was praise for Claude’s capabilities, with a nearly human-like text generation. "Claude is quite good at writing easy-to-read texts. The output of ChatGPT can sometimes feel overly influenced by American sales copy, but Claude writes in a way that sounds more human."

"Claude can even write simple programs, like creating a quiz about American politics with animations. It's still under development, but it's already very impressive. Claude also has an Android app that might be better than OpenAI’s, alongside its iOS app. That’s intriguing."

2. Perplexity: the contextual AI Model

Next, Hemminga introduced Perplexity, an AI model known for its innovative approach to generating human-like text. "Unlike other AI tools that rely heavily on large language models, Perplexity starts by understanding the context of your query," he explained. "This approach sets Perplexity apart."

"It emphasises understanding the nuances of your query, conducts thorough research, and generates a response linked back to its original sources."

"Perplexity ensures it grasps the essence of your question before diving into the vast sea of information. It emphasises understanding the nuances of your query, conducts thorough research, and generates a response linked back to its original sources. This makes fact-checking easier and more reliable."

3. Ernie Turbo: Baidu’s high-speed AI

Lastly, they discussed Baidu’s Ernie Turbo. "This AI model focuses on high-speed and accurate natural language processing. Their website is in Chinese, but with the help of a VPN and Google Translate, we were able to give it some queries."

 "Maybe in a few years, we’ll conclude that China has won the AI race with Baidu’s various models."

"Ernie Turbo is fairly similar to ChatGPT, though it also has a text-to-video feature and boasts 200 million daily queries. It’s the backbone of Baidu Comate, an AI coding assistant, with a code adoption rate of 46%. The images it creates are quite impressive, possibly even better than Microsoft’s Copilot."

"Maybe in a few years, we’ll conclude that China has won the AI race with Baidu’s various models", Spanjaart concluded.

In the latest episode of AI in Recruitment, VONQ's Chief Technology Officer Bill Fisher delves into the transformative potential of AI in the hiring process. His insights provide a fresh perspective on how AI can address the perennial challenges faced by recruiters. "I think the scarcity is in part because the tools they're using aren't good enough to find relevant candidates. And that's where, that's where opening AI can really shine." 

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In AI in Recruitment, co-hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart explore the benefits, challenges, and potential pitfalls of using AI to source, screen, and hire candidates.

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At Siemens, everything revolves around the right candidate experience, while the company is still looking for better opportunities to use AI and assessments. Martijn Hemminga from Recruitment Tech spoke with Markus Kumpf, head of recruitment innovation and technology at Siemens. Kumpf shares his views on how Siemens is adapting to the changing demands of candidates. “It's easy to have a nice, sleek resume, but we really need to test whether candidates have the specific skills we're looking for.”

Wim Thielemans is a man on a mission to make the recruitment process fairer for everyone, with his newly digitised CACTUS-framework. ‘We need to see the person behind the CV. Everyone deserves a fair chance, irrespective of their background’, he says in an episode of AI in Recruitment.

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In AI in Recruitment, co-hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart explore the benefits, challenges, and potential pitfalls of using AI to source, screen, and hire candidates.

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In Episode 12 of "AI in Recruitment," co-hosts Jasper Spanjaart and Martijn Hemminga explore the evolving role of artificial intelligence in the recruitment industry, with a focus on AI-driven bias and discrimination.

The episode includes a soundbite from Brando Benifei, co-rapporteur on Europe’s AI Act, who discusses the importance of responsible AI development and the implementation of checks and standards for training data to combat bias. Laurens Waling, Chief Evangelist at 8vance, offers a perspective that challenges the fear surrounding AI in recruitment, suggesting that AI could potentially outperform human recruiters in some aspects.

About AI in Recruitment

In AI in Recruitment, co-hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart explore the benefits, challenges, and potential pitfalls of using AI to source, screen, and hire candidates.

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On the 11th episode of AI in Recruitment, host Jasper Spanjaart is joined by seasoned recruiter and tech enthusiast, Gordon Lokenberg. Recorded live at TruRotterdam at Vonq headquarters, the episode dives into why so many tings in the recruitment process can be automated. As Lokenberg puts it: "The real risk lies in being left behind by not leveraging the potential of AI.”

About AI in Recruitment

In AI in Recruitment, co-hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart explore the benefits, challenges, and potential pitfalls of using AI to source, screen, and hire candidates.

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In the tenth episode of AI in Recruitment, hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart are hosted by Geert-Jan Waasdorp in Intelligence Group's brand-new office in Rotterdam. They delve into AI predictions for 2024 and 2025 and the need for use-cases. Has the excitement faded?

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About AI in Recruitment

In AI in Recruitment, co-hosts Martijn Hemminga and Jasper Spanjaart explore the benefits, challenges, and potential pitfalls of using AI to source, screen, and hire candidates.

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