In this episode, host Alex Greene sits down with Lindsay Wolff, a certified health coach and mentor with the Primal Trust Program. Lindsay shares her powerful journey from experiencing debilitating chronic illness—including chronic fatigue, Lyme disease, and severe pain—to discovering the transformative power of nervous system regulation and somatic practices. After spending nearly a decade navigating the medical system without lasting relief, Lindsay found healing through a comprehensive approach that integrates bottom-up nervous system practices, trauma processing, and reconnection with nature.

Lindsay introduces listeners to the Primal Trust framework, explaining how it differs from other brain retraining programs through its three-level curriculum that begins with foundational practices like TRE (Trauma Release Exercises), functional neurology, and breathwork before moving into deeper emotional processing and parts work. She discusses the importance of titrating these practices for sensitive nervous systems, creating safety through gradual exposure, and building capacity over time. The conversation explores how chronic illness often stems from nervous system dysregulation following stress or trauma, and how practices like neurogenic tremoring can help discharge survival energy stored in the body.

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Key Highlights & Timestamps

• 00:00 Introduction to Lindsay 
• 01:00 Primal Trust Overview 
• 03:00 Lindsay's Journey Begins 
• 04:00 Chronic Illness Algorithm 
• 05:00 Health Crash Experience 
• 07:00 Nature's Healing Power 
• 09:00 Discovering TRE Practice 
• 12:00 Body-Mind Connection Awakening 
• 13:00 Primal Trust Explained
•  15:00 Bottom-Up Practices 
• 18:00 Brain Retraining Fundamentals
•  21:00 Level Two Work 
• 23:00 Hero's Journey Framework 
• 25:00 Mentorship and Coaching 
• 36:00 Titrating TRE Practice 
• 42:00 Individual vs Group 
• 46:00 Nature Connection Experience 
• 48:00 Emotional Reservoir Concept 
• 53:00 Workshop Preview

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Primal Trust Program: https://www.primaltrust.org/ 
• Dr. Cathleen King (Dr. Cath): https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-cathleen-king-dpt-951b6597 
• Red Beard Embodiment Podcast with Dr. Cathleen King https://www.redbeardsomatictherapy.com/post/podcast-e29-discovering-primal-trust-ft-dr-cathleen-king 

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What happens when a trauma survivor discovers TRE and becomes the practitioner she needed? Alex Greene speaks with Svava Brooks, a TRE practitioner in Reykjavik, Iceland, who has mastered integrating neurogenic tremoring with mindful self-compassion and polyvagal theory. Svava didn't set out to become a provider—she entered the training for her own healing. But what she discovered transformed not only her life but her approach to holding space for others.

As a complex trauma survivor in functional freeze, Svava shares practical wisdom from taking "a thousand tiny steps" into social engagement. She reveals why TRE alone wasn't enough—she needed self-compassion practices to befriend her body and build the safe attachment capacity she'd never experienced. She discusses why she teaches the "hand on heart" practice first, how to work with freeze patterns during tremoring, and why going "slower than slow" creates lasting change. Now bringing TRE to every town in Iceland, Svava offers insights on sustainable healing practices, integrating somatic work with other modalities, and creating compassionate containers where bodies feel safe to release.

Key Highlights:

• 00:00 Introduction to Svava Brooks 
• 02:51 Client's emotional breakthrough story 
• 07:18 Discovering TRE in 2015 
• 09:09 Body's push-pull response 
• 13:30 Self-compassion meets TRE 
• 16:47 ACE Study explained 
• 21:24 Hand-on-heart practice begins
•  24:06 Chronic freeze patterns 29:41 Practicing the pause 
• 34:16 Transformation as mother 
• 36:38 Discovering joy and creativity 
• 39:26 TRE Iceland mission 
• 42:52 Hope through tremoring 
• 44:52 Slower you go quote

Resources Mentioned:

• ACE Study (Adverse Childhood Experiences Study): https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/s0749-3797(98)00017-8/pdf 
• Polyvagal Theory: https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/whatispolyvagaltheory 
• Kristin Neff - Self-Compassion Research: https://self-compassion.org/the-research/ 
• Dr. David Berceli: https://treglobal.org/about-dr-david-berceli/ 
• Svava’s Website: https://www.svavabrooks.com/ 

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Alex Greene welcomes back Liza Kimble for an exciting follow-up conversation about her groundbreaking experience at the Fascia Congress in New Orleans. Fresh from her travels, Liza shares how she introduced TRE and neurogenic tremoring to the international fascia research community, where over 100 attendees experienced tremoring for the first time. The congress brought together leading voices in nervous system work, including Stephen Porges, Robert Schleip, and Gil Hedley, creating a unique convergence of scientific research and therapeutic practice that validated the deep connection between fascia, trauma, and the autonomic nervous system.

Liza takes listeners behind the scenes of this transformative event, sharing insights from keynote presentations on the fascia-nervous system connection, Gil Hedley's emotional vagus nerve dissection, and conversations about consciousness within connective tissue. She discusses the positive reception to her TRE demonstration with Professor Werner Klingler, the power of vagal activation through sound and voice work, and her growing passion for integrating indigenous healing wisdom—including Sami yoiking traditions—with somatic practices. This conversation illuminates the exciting frontier where ancient healing methods, cutting-edge fascia research, and neurogenic tremoring converge to offer new pathways for trauma healing and embodied wellness.

Listen to the full episode to discover how the fascia world is embracing neurogenic tremoring and what this means for the future of trauma healing and somatic therapy.

Key Highlights:

00:04 - Introduction and Congress Overview
 03:10 - Robert Schleip on Fascia
 05:29 - Fascia Responds to Stress
 08:45 - Fabiana de Silva's Vagal Resets
 11:17 - Self-Help Grounding Through Squeezing
 12:18 - Gil Hedley's Vagus Dissection
 14:01 - Sounding and Vagal Activation
 18:06 - Fascia, Consciousness, and Soul
 21:28 - Meeting Stephen Porges
 25:32 - Traumatic Brain Injury Insights
 30:00 - Liza's TRE Presentation Experience
 32:51 - 100 People Experience Tremoring
 40:00 - Future Congress Plans
 42:40 - Sami Yoiking Healing Songs
 48:34 - Human Algorithm Workshop Preview

Resources Mentioned:

• Robert Schleip - Fascia Research Foundation
• Gil Hedley - Nerve Tour and Anatomy Videos: https://www.gilhedley.com/ 
• Stephen Porges - Polyvagal Theory: https://www.stephenporges.com/ 
• Fabiana Silva - Fascia Research Society President: https://www.facebook.com/FasciaResearchSociety/
• John Sharkey - Anatomist and Fascia Researcher: http://www.johnsharkeyevents.com/ 
• Journal of Movement and Bodywork
• Liza Kimble’s website: https://lizakimble.com/ 

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Alex Greene speaks with Bonnie Pariser, a TRE provider and yoga therapist who runs Yoga Loca studio in Frenchtown, New Jersey. Bonnie shares how she transformed her yoga therapy practice by integrating TRE (Tension & Trauma Release Exercises) with traditional yoga approaches. Her unique journey from fashion design to embodiment work led her to discover that tremoring can dramatically improve outcomes for clients with chronic tension, anxiety, and trauma.

Bonnie explains how tremoring prepares the nervous system for yoga practices, especially for clients who are too activated to benefit from conventional stretching or meditation. She uses the Ayurvedic dosha framework to understand different nervous system states: vata (anxiety/bracing), pitta (hypervigilance), and kapha (shutdown). This approach works with the body's natural healing mechanisms rather than against them.

The conversation covers practical applications including emotional regulation, conflict resolution, and spiritual practice preparation. Bonnie shares examples from her classes and one-on-one sessions, showing how clients move from seeking physical relief to developing life management skills. Her integration of ancient wisdom with modern trauma approaches demonstrates how nervous system regulation can transform both therapy outcomes and daily life.

Listen to the full episode to discover how this powerful combination of TRE and yoga can transform your approach to nervous system regulation and embodiment practices.

Key Highlights:

• 0:00 Introduction 
• 1:49 Fashion to Embodiment 
• 4:19 TRE Training Discovery 
• 6:06 Yoga Sutras Connection 
• 7:06 Kumbhaka Breathless State 
• 12:09 Integration with Classes 
• 17:05 Emotional Regulation Practice 
• 18:44 Conflict Resolution Applications 
• 26:51 Ayurvedic Dosha Perspective 
• 27:20 Vata Derangement Treatment 
• 30:53 One-on-One Applications 
• 35:52 Personal Practice Evolution 
• 37:17 Tandava Dance Connection 
• 41:08 Kriya Spontaneous Movements 
• 50:58 Myofascial Release Integration 
• 52:50 Future Learning Directions

Links and Resources: 

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/YogaLokaNJ/ 
• Websites: https://www.yoga-loka.com/     http://www.yoga-therapy-can-help.me/ 
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yoga_loka/ 
• David Berceli - TRE founder and trainer: https://treglobal.org/about-dr-david-berceli/ 

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Join Alex as he sits down with longtime colleague Anders Totten, a structural integration bodywork therapist specializing in Tom Myers' Anatomy Trains approach. Anders shares his journey from massage school in Madison, Wisconsin to becoming a deep student of fascial work and structural integration. This conversation explores the fascinating world of fascia, from Ida Rolf's pioneering work in the 1940s-50s to cutting-edge research being presented at the upcoming Fascia Congress in New Orleans.

The discussion covers the collaborative nature of structural integration work, the profound experiences Anders had in cadaver labs touching actual anatomy trains, and the emerging connections between fascial work and emotional regulation through the nervous system. Anders reflects on his training with Polish bodywork wizard Jarek Kakowski and shares mystical experiences from working with cadavers, including the profound sensations of holding different organs.

Throughout the conversation, both practitioners emphasize the importance of cross-disciplinary collaboration in somatic work, moving beyond tribal thinking to embrace the convergence of fascial research, polyvagal theory, and embodied trauma healing approaches.

Ready to dive deeper into the world of structural integration and fascial healing? Listen to the complete conversation to hear Anders' full journey and insights into this transformative bodywork approach.

Key Highlights: 

• 00:01 - Background introductions
• 05:00 - Ida Rolf origins
• 09:00 - Osteopathic influences
• 12:00 - Gravity field philosophy
• 16:00 - Tom Myers introduction
• 20:00 - Anatomy trains criticism
• 23:00 - Cadaver lab experiences
• 26:00 - Mystical organ touching
• 33:00 - Structural integration approach
• 39:00 - First session process
• 44:00 - Fascia Congress preview
• 49:00 - Emotional fascia research
• 56:00 - Interdisciplinary collaboration
• 60:00 - Future directions

Links & Resources

• Book a call with Anders: https://www.redbeardsomatictherapy.com/team/anders-totten 
• Tom Myers' Anatomy Trains
• Rolf Institute
• Laboratories for Anatomical Enlightenment (Boulder)
• Fascia Research Congress (New Orleans)
• Robert Schleip's research
• Stephen Porges and Polyvagal Theory
• John F. Barnes Myofascial Release

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Alex Greene talks with Liza Kimble, a body therapist from South Africa who combines TRE (Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises) with gentle touch work. Liza has worked with bodies for 32 years and discovered that lighter touch often works better than deep, painful massage. She works with both people and horses, teaching them how to release tension through natural tremoring.

Liza shares how she went from doing very intense massage work to learning gentler approaches that help the nervous system feel safe. Her work with horses taught her important lessons about healing - when horses feel comfortable, they naturally start to shake and release stored stress. She's excited to present her work at a big research conference in New Orleans.

The conversation covers how to combine different healing methods, why therapists need to take care of themselves, and Liza's interest in ancient wisdom about human behavior patterns. This episode helps both therapists and regular people understand how gentle body work can help heal trauma and calm the nervous system.

Key Highlights:

• 00:01 - Background introduction
• 00:03 - Massage therapy beginnings
• 00:05 - Psoas activation discovery
• 00:07 - Meeting David Berceli
• 00:09 - First TRE experience
• 00:12 - Combining TRE fascial
• 00:14 - Fascia Congress attendance
• 00:16 - Horse tremoring discovery
• 00:19 - Touch technique evolution
• 00:22 - Client homework protocols
• 00:25 - Horse therapy training
• 00:29 - Traumatized horse transformation
• 00:34 - Horse tremoring patterns
• 00:37 - Equine therapy philosophy
• 00:42 - Teaching methodology evolution
• 00:44 - Upcoming Congress excitement
• 00:50 - Human algorithm teachings

Links and Resources: 

• International Fascia Research Congress: https://www.frscongress.org/ 
• Liza’s Website: https://lizakimble.com/ 
• Polyvagal Theory resources by Dr. Stephen Porges: https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/whatispolyvagaltheory 
• Tom Myers' Anatomy Trains and fascial meridians: https://www.myersmyofascialmeridians.com/ 

What if the secret to deep healing wasn't found in a technique---but in the quality of presence you bring to another human being? In this episode, Alex reconnects with Simba Stenqvist, TRE® trainer and somatic innovator based in Thailand, to explore his groundbreaking modality called Internal Alchemy---a fusion of neurogenic tremoring, fascial work, breathwork, and energetic practices.

Simba shares how Internal Alchemy emerged not from intellectual design, but through direct revelation during meditation---symbols, insights, and movements that seemed to arise through him rather than from him. Drawing on 25+ years in martial arts, bodywork, and nervous system practices, Simba reveals how respecting traditional lineages means bringing them forward to meet contemporary needs. From his multicultural background (Swedish-Dominican) to his "old school" teaching philosophy, Simba embodies the art of working with "who's in front of you" rather than rigid protocols.

Together, Alex and Simba dive deep into the mystery of masterful facilitation---how experienced practitioners learn to trust their intuition, follow subtle body cues, and create spaces where profound healing can unfold. This conversation explores presence as medicine, the power of authentic witnessing, and how combining fascial work with tremoring can access layers of stored trauma that pure nervous system approaches might miss. If you've ever wondered what transforms a good practitioner into a masterful one, this episode offers profound insights into the art of somatic healing.

Key Highlights:

• [00:03:00] Internal Alchemy Origins Story
• [05:15:00] Innovation Meets Ancient Wisdom
• [09:52:00] Teaching Who's Present Philosophy
• [14:27:00] Fascial Work Beyond Structure
• [17:34:00] Connecting Somatic Worlds
• [22:27:00] Creating Safe Containers
• [25:43:00] Witnessing & Reframing Trauma
• [28:30:00] Intuitive vs Intellectual Knowing
• [33:00:00] Organism-to-Organism Communication
• [40:15:00] Presence as Transmission
• [46:57:00] Natural vs Supernatural Abilities
• [48:47:00] Beyond Nervous System Labels

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• Website: https://livingwiththespirit.com/ 
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livingwiththespirit/ 

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This week, Alex sits down with Daniel Seifert, a journalist whose work has appeared in the BBC, New York Times, and National Geographic. Daniel shares how he stumbled upon neurogenic tremoring through YouTube videos while looking for ways to manage deadline stress. What started as curious exploration quickly became a regular practice that helped him sleep better, release jaw tension, and feel more at ease in his body. His story is a reminder that our bodies already know how to heal—sometimes we just need to rediscover the natural mechanisms that are built right in!

Daniel's experience goes beyond just physical relief—he noticed how tremoring seemed to "dissolve the hyphen between mind and body," making him more receptive to music and even improving his posture. He compares the tremoring response to laughter: both are natural, sometimes uncontrollable movements that bring deep release and relief. Alex adds fascinating context about how Dr. David Berceli developed this approach after observing natural tremoring responses in war zones, recognizing that what many see as just "shaking with fear" might actually be the body's innate wisdom trying to complete the stress cycle.

The conversation flows into how tremoring complements other wellness practices that Daniel enjoys, from Tai Chi to breathwork to sauna and cold plunging. Alex shares stories of how this simple practice is spreading through fire departments, religious communities, and meditation centers—creating powerful results when paired with other modalities. Whether you're new to body-based practices or a seasoned wellness enthusiast, this warm conversation offers a friendly introduction to how inviting your body's natural tremors might become a game-changer in your healing toolkit.

Key Highlights: 

• 0:00 - Introduction to Daniel's story
• 4:12 - Discovering tremoring on YouTube
• 8:30 - "What happened during my first tremoring session"
• 13:45 - When tremoring leads to spontaneous laughter
• 18:23 - How Tai Chi complements neurogenic tremoring
• 22:50 - Enhanced music appreciation after tremoring
• 27:15 - The posture benefits Daniel experienced
• 33:40 - "Your body knows how to heal"
• 39:10 - Invitation vs resistance in the body
• 42:30 - Tips for tremoring beginners
• 48:15 - Breathwork and tremoring: perfect partners
• 52:40 - The Feldenkrais connection
• 56:20 - Surprising insights about athletic bodies and tremoring
• 59:45 - How firefighters are using tremoring
• 1:03:12 - Meditation becomes deeper after tremoring

Links & Resources

• Shaking Medicine: https://www.amazon.com/Shaking-Medicine-Healing-Ecstatic-Movement/dp/1594771499 
• Wilhelm Reich: https://www.britannica.com/biography/Wilhelm-Reich 
• Alexander Lowen: https://www.lowenfoundation.org/about-alexander-lowen 
• Institute for Zen Leadership: https://zenleader.global/ 

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In this episode, Alex talks with Charna Cassell, a Trauma-Trained Psychotherapist and Sexuality Coach  from Oakland who combines somatic coaching, bodywork, and energy medicine in her practice. Charna explains why talk therapy often fails to create change in trauma recovery, and how physical practices can transform the nervous system in ways cognitive understanding cannot.

Charna shares her journey through "boundary bootcamp" at Good Vibrations and her training at the Strozzi Institute. "I really needed physical practice," she says about why ten years of talk therapy created awareness but didn't change her nervous system responses.

Throughout the conversation, Charna demonstrates somatic exercises that reveal embodied habits. She explains how our bodies show our patterns under minimal stress and introduces the concept that "until you have an embodied No, you can't have a genuine Yes." The episode covers how repetition creates new neural pathways—like a deer path that becomes visible after being walked repeatedly—and how practice transforms boundaries from rigid or absent to compassionate.

Key Highlights:

• 00:00 Introduction to Charna
• 04:06 Boundary bootcamp experience
• 10:15 Strozzi Institute training
• 14:47 Current practice overview
• 18:36 Contact exercise demonstration
• 24:02 Freeze response explained
• 27:45 Boundary progression stages
• 31:42 Healing relationship boundaries
• 33:16 Bodywork benefits described
• 37:54 Kundalini yoga journey
• 40:31 Managing collective fear
• 42:27 Breath of fire technique
• 44:04 Ways to work with Charna

Links & Resources

• Website: https://charnacassell.com/
• Website:https://passionatelife.org/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laidopenpodcast
• FacebookL: https://www.facebook.com/LaidOpenPodcast/ 
• Podcast: https://charnacassell.com/laidopen/

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In this episode of the Red Beard Embodiment podcast, host Alex welcomes Simona Irwin and Layah Jane Singer-Wilson for a genuine conversation about Five Rhythms dance as a pathway to befriending fear and healing trauma.

The guests share their personal stories – Simona recounting her first Five Rhythms experience that brought unexpected tears after years of emotional blockage during her health struggles, and Layah describing how movement became her medicine during a pivotal health crisis in her twenties. Together, they discuss their collaborative course "BEFRIENDING EMBODIED MOVEMENT: AN INTRODUCTION TO 5RHYTHMS™" created to bring this transformative practice to everyone, including those who might be homebound or facing physical limitations.

Through gentle explanations and personal examples, they reveal how the five rhythms – flowing, staccato, chaos, lyrical, and stillness – create a container for our emotional lives, allowing fear and other difficult feelings to move through the body naturally. Their approach honors both the cathartic potential of movement and the importance of regulation, creating a trauma-sensitive framework that meets practitioners exactly where they are.

Whether you're curious about embodied practices or seeking new ways to process old wounds, this conversation offers compassionate insight into how our bodies naturally know the way through fear when given the chance to move with awareness.

Key Highlights:

• [00:00:] Welcome and introduction to our guests
• [01:12] Five Rhythms as embodied healing practice
• [02:39] Simona and Layah's backgrounds and expertise
• [05:46] Simona's moving first dance experience
• [10:20] Understanding the five rhythms wave
• [13:16] How Layah found her calling through movement
• [17:34] Alex shares his dance journey beginnings
• [20:19] The origins with Gabrielle Roth at Esalen
• [27:33] Creating trauma-sensitive movement spaces
• [31:12] Inside their accessible online course
• [33:35] Movement and nervous system regulation
• [37:27] Mindfulness principles in movement practice
• [41:16] Adaptations for all bodies and abilities
• [46:31] A personal healing story through dance
• [51:11] How to join the movement community

Links & Resources

Layah Jane

• Website: layahjane.com
• Instagram: @layahjane.movement

Simona

• Website: turningtowards.me
• Instagram: @turningtowards

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