Our guest this week is a specialist at offensive cybersecurity; that is, they keep you safe by attacking you and showing you your vulnerabilities. They're a red team.  We've got the leader of their red team, Duanne Laflotte, to help us understand how hackers think – and what we can do to stop them.  He confirmed some of the recommendations we often make (Ahem: password managers good), but showed us some defenses aren't that helpful. A particularly relevant part to our backup audience is what he told us about the vulnerabilities of our backup system.  At least one of them Mr. Backup had never thought of.  Duanne is fun and scary all at the same time.  I know this will be one of our top episodes this year.