Redefining CyberSecurity

Redefining CyberSecurity

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Redefining CyberSecurity episodes

  • SOC Automation and the AI-Driven Future of Cybersecurity Defense | A Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast Conversation with Richard Stiennon, Chief Research Analyst of IT-Harvest

    ⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥

    The security operations center has always been a battleground of volume, velocity, and human endurance. Analysts have long faced the impossible math of too many alerts, too few hours, and too much at stake. For years, the industry promised automation would change that equation -- but the technology was never quite ready to deliver. That moment, according to Richard Stiennon, has now arrived.

    Stiennon, Chief Research Analyst at IT-Harvest, has spent two decades tracking every corner of the cybersecurity vendor landscape. His data now shows more than 61 net-new SOC automation vendors -- companies that did not exist a few years ago -- built from the ground up to replace the work of tier-one, tier-two, and tier-three analysts. Some of these vendors launched in January 2024 and reached $1 million in ARR by April. By the end of 2025, several were reporting $3 million ARR. These are not incremental improvements. They represent a structural shift in how security operations can be run.

    What makes this generation of SOC automation different from earlier SIEM and SOAR tooling is scope and autonomy. The value proposition is blunt: 100% alert triage, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week -- with automated case building, threat investigation, and response actions including machine isolation and reimaging. Stiennon points to a CISO he met, speaking under Chatham House rules, who disclosed that a large enterprise had already eliminated its entire human SOC team. He predicts that disclosure will go public before long.

    The conversation also explores the business context question that security leaders frequently wrestle with: are these AI-driven SOC tools operating with a narrow cyber mandate, potentially optimizing for security metrics at the expense of business continuity? Stiennon pushes back on that concern, arguing that large language models are already trained on the full breadth of human knowledge -- they understand business context at a level that exceeds most organizations' internal documentation. The more pressing risk, he suggests, is not that AI will act outside business intent, but that organizations will move too slowly to benefit. Waiting six months for a proof-of-concept report while spending a million dollars on human SOC operations is not due diligence -- it is opportunity cost.

    The conversation also touches on data privacy in AI-driven security, the role of federated learning and fully homomorphic encryption for compliance-sensitive environments, and what security leaders can do today to evaluate and accelerate their own adoption timeline. Stiennon will be at RSA Conference 2026 with his new book, Guardians of the Machine Age: Why AI Security Will Define Digital Defense, continuing to make the case for a field that is moving faster than most organizations are prepared to acknowledge.

    ⬥GUEST⬥

    Richard Stiennon, Chief Research Analyst at IT-Harvest | Website: https://it-harvest.com/

    On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiennon/

    ⬥HOST⬥

    Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/

    ⬥RESOURCES⬥

    IT-Harvest | https://it-harvest.com/

    Richard Stiennon on LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiennon/
    Guardians of the Machine Age: Why AI Security Will Define Digital Defense (Richard Stiennon) | Available via IT-Harvest and major booksellers
    RSAC Conference 2026 Coverage on ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsac-2026-conference-san-francisco-usa-cybersecurity-event-infosec-conference-coverage
    The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/
    More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast
    Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq

    ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥

    On Podcast: https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast

    On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq
    Newsletter: https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity
    Contact Sean: https://www.seanmartin.com/

    ⬥KEYWORDS⬥

    richard stiennon, it-harvest, sean martin, soc automation, ai security, security operations center, threat detection, autonomous response, alert triage, security operations, cybersecurity vendors, ai agents, large language models, federated learning, siem, soar, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast

    27 min
  • Speaking Security with a Business Accent: Why Being Right Isn't Enough If Nobody Listens | A Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast Conversation with Josh Mason

    ⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥

    What happens when a cybersecurity professional knows exactly what's wrong but can't get anyone to act on it? It's a problem that affects security teams across every industry, and it's the central question driving Josh Mason's new book, Speaks Security with a Business Accent. In this conversation, Josh Mason joins Sean Martin to unpack why technical accuracy alone doesn't move the needle and what it takes to communicate security in terms the business actually understands.

    Josh Mason brings a perspective shaped by years as an Air Force pilot and cyber warfare officer, where mission-first thinking wasn't optional, it was survival. As a safety officer, he studied aircraft mishaps, analyzed black box recordings, and learned that risk awareness doesn't mean risk paralysis. The same philosophy, he argues, applies to cybersecurity: teams can acknowledge risk without letting fear of failure prevent them from supporting the mission. Drawing from books like Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People, The Phoenix Project, and The Goal, Josh Mason structured his own book as a narrative, telling the story of a CIO who transforms a disconnected security team into one that communicates effectively with colleagues, leadership, the board, and eventually beyond the organization.

    A recurring theme in this conversation is the danger of perfection as the enemy of progress. Josh Mason uses the Iron Man analogy of building an imperfect prototype, flying it, learning from the failure, and iterating, to argue that security teams need to embrace a similar mindset. DevOps teams have already adopted this approach, and security can learn from it. Inaction for perfection's sake, he warns, isn't going to get anyone anywhere.

    The conversation also examines whether the cybersecurity industry does enough to learn from its own incidents. Unlike aviation, where the FAA and NTSB mandate rigorous post-incident analysis, cybersecurity lacks a centralized authority enforcing that same discipline. Organizations like MITRE, Verizon, and Mandiant publish valuable trend reports, and the data is there for those willing to use it, but it ultimately comes down to individual responsibility and leadership within each organization.

    For anyone who has ever felt technically right but strategically sidelined, this conversation offers a practical lens on bridging the gap between what security teams know and what the business needs to hear.

    ⬥GUEST⬥

    Josh Mason, Author of Speaks Security with a Business Accent | Air Force Veteran, Cybersecurity Professional, and Founder of Noob Village | Website: https://www.mason-sc.com | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuacmason/

    ⬥HOST⬥

    Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/

    ⬥RESOURCES⬥

    Speaks Security with a Business Accent by Josh Mason | https://www.mason-sc.com

    The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/
    More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast
    Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq

    ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥

    ✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast:
    🎧 https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast
    Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube:
    📺 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq
    📝 The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/
    Contact Sean Martin to request to be a guest on an episode of Redefining CyberSecurity: https://www.seanmartin.com/contact

    ⬥KEYWORDS⬥

    josh mason, sean martin, speaks security with a business accent, cybersecurity communication, business alignment, penetration testing, risk management, air force cybersecurity, security leadership, mission-driven security, stakeholder communication, security storytelling, noob village, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast

    32 min
  • The Autonomous SOC Is No Longer a Dream | A Brand Highlight Conversation with Subo Guha, Senior Vice President of Product Management of Stellar Cyber

    What does it take to turn the dream of an autonomous SOC into something organizations can actually deploy? Subo Guha, Senior Vice President of Product Management at Stellar Cyber, joins Sean Martin to share how the company's AI-driven security operations platform is making that vision a reality. Stellar Cyber serves SOC teams across more than 50 countries, with a primary focus on MSPs and MSSPs supporting the underserved mid-market, though marquee enterprise customers like Canon are also part of the portfolio.

    How can agentic AI change the way SOC teams handle alert overload? Guha describes what he calls a "digital army" of AI agents that work around the clock to automate alert triage and catch phishing attacks. The system filters 70 to 80 percent of incoming alerts, allowing analysts to focus on the 20 percent that matter most. With attackers using AI to launch faster and more frequent campaigns, Stellar Cyber takes a human-augmented approach, meaning the AI learns from analyst interactions and continuously guides the SOC team toward faster, more accurate remediation.

    Why does this matter for MSPs operating on thin margins? Guha explains that the autonomous SOC capability layered on top of Stellar Cyber's XDR platform allows MSSPs to serve more customers, reduce mean time to repair, and grow their tenant base without proportionally increasing staff. When MSSPs grow revenue, Stellar Cyber grows alongside them, creating a mutually beneficial model that ultimately means more organizations get protected.

    This is a Brand Highlight. A Brand Highlight is a ~5 minute introductory conversation designed to put a spotlight on the guest and their company. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/creation#highlight

    GUEST

    Subo Guha, Senior Vice President of Product Management, Stellar Cyber @LinkedIn

    RESOURCES

    Learn more about Stellar Cyber: https://stellarcyber.ai

    Are you interested in telling your story?
    ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full
    ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight
    ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight

    KEYWORDS

    Subo Guha, Stellar Cyber, Sean Martin, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand highlight, autonomous SOC, agentic AI, security operations, XDR, NDR, MSSP, MSP, alert triage, AI-driven security, Open XDR, Gartner Magic Quadrant, phishing detection, SOC automation

    8 min
  • The New Identity Risk AI Agents Bring to the Enterprise | A Brand Highlight Conversation with Ido Shlomo, Co-Founder & CTO of Token Security

    What happens when AI agents inherit access to enterprise systems but nobody governs their identities? Ido Shlomo, Co-Founder and CTO of Token Security, joins the conversation to unpack a rapidly growing challenge that many organizations face but few have addressed. As businesses accelerate AI adoption, agents are being deployed to fetch data from CRMs, process emails, and execute actions across platforms. The problem is that these agents often operate with persistent access, no clear ownership, and little visibility into what they can reach.

    How should security teams approach AI agent identity governance? Shlomo explains that the first step is discovery. Most companies do not know what their AI agent inventory looks like, and without that baseline, effective governance is impossible. The good news, he notes, is that agents do not suffer from politics. They do exactly what they are told and operate within the boundaries they are given. That predictability makes the challenge more manageable if the right tooling is in place.

    What makes an effective access policy for AI agents? Rather than relying on prompt filtering or output controls that add latency and friction, Shlomo advocates for intent-based permission models that scope each agent to access only what it needs, when it needs it. He frames the prioritization process as a matrix of access and autonomy, where the agents with the highest levels of both deserve immediate attention. For business leaders, the visibility that comes from this approach also reveals waste and inefficiency, highlighting departments and services that are not delivering on their intended value. To learn more about how to identify, govern, and secure AI agent identities, connect with the Token Security team and follow Ido Shlomo for practical guidance.

    This is a Brand Highlight. A Brand Highlight is a ~5 minute introductory conversation designed to put a spotlight on the guest and their company. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/creation#highlight

    GUEST

    Ido Shlomo, Co-Founder & CTO of Token Security
    On LinkedIn: https://il.linkedin.com/in/ido--shlomo

    RESOURCES

    Token Security (Website): https://www.token.security/

    Are you interested in telling your story?
    ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full
    ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight
    ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight

    KEYWORDS

    Ido Shlomo, Token Security, Sean Martin, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand highlight, AI agent identity, non-human identity, identity governance, AI agent security, identity risk, least privilege, AI agent access, machine identity, NHI security, AI agent inventory, intent-based access

    7 min
  • KEVology: How Exploit Scores and Timelines Shape Real Security Decisions | A Brand Highlight Conversation with Tod Beardsley, Vice President of Security Research of runZero

    The CISA Known Exploited Vulnerabilities (KEV) catalog is one of the most referenced resources in vulnerability management, but how well do security teams actually understand what it tells them? In this Brand Highlight, Tod Beardsley, Vice President of Security Research at runZero and former CISA section chief who helped manage the KEV on a daily basis, breaks down what the catalog is designed to do and, just as importantly, what it is not.

    What is the KEV catalog and who is it really for? The KEV is mandated by Binding Operational Directive 22-01 (BOD 22-01), which tasks CISA with identifying vulnerabilities that are known to be exploited and have an available fix. Its primary audience is federal civilian executive branch agencies, but because the catalog is public, organizations everywhere use it as a prioritization signal. Beardsley notes that inclusion on the KEV requires a CVE ID, evidence of active exploitation, a patch or mitigation, and relevance to federal interests, meaning zero-day vulnerabilities and end-of-life systems without CVEs never appear.

    How should organizations think about KEV entries that are not equally dangerous? Beardsley explains that only about a third of KEV-listed vulnerabilities represent straight-shot remote code execution with no user interaction and no authentication required. The rest span a wide spectrum of severity. EPSS data reveals an inverse bell curve: many KEV entries have extremely low probabilities of exploitation in the next 30 days, while others cluster at the high end with commodity exploits widely available. This means treating every KEV entry as equally critical leads to wasted effort and alert fatigue.

    That gap between the catalog and real-world decision-making is exactly what KEVology addresses. The research, produced by Beardsley at runZero, enriches KEV data with CVSS metrics, EPSS scores, exploit tooling indicators, and ATT&CK mappings to help security teams filter and prioritize vulnerabilities based on what actually matters to their environment. Rather than prescribing a single priority list, KEVology treats the KEV as data to be analyzed, not doctrine to be followed blindly.

    To make this analysis accessible and interactive, runZero built KEV Collider, a free, daily-updated web application at runzero.com/kev-collider. The tool lets defenders sort, filter, and layer multiple risk signals across the entire KEV catalog. Because every filter combination is encoded in URL parameters, teams can bookmark and share custom views with colleagues instantly. Beardsley describes KEV Collider as an evergreen companion to the research, updating automatically as new vulnerabilities are added to the catalog each week.

    This is a Brand Highlight. A Brand Highlight is a ~5 minute introductory conversation designed to put a spotlight on the guest and their company. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/creation#highlight

    GUEST

    Tod Beardsley, Vice President of Security Research at runZero
    On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todb/

    RESOURCES

    Learn more about runZero: https://www.runzero.com
    KEVology research report: https://www.runzero.com/resources/kevology/
    KEV Collider: https://www.runzero.com/kev-collider/

    Are you interested in telling your story?
    ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full
    ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight
    ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight

    KEYWORDS

    Tod Beardsley, runZero, Sean Martin, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand highlight, KEVology, KEV Collider, CISA KEV, vulnerability management, exploit scoring, EPSS, CVSS, vulnerability prioritization, exposure management, BOD 22-01, known exploited vulnerabilities, cybersecurity risk, patch management

    9 min
  • Semantic Chaining: A New Image-Based Jailbreak Targeting Multimodal AI | A Brand Highlight Conversation with Alessandro Pignati, AI Security Researcher of NeuralTrust

    What happens when AI safety filters fail to catch harmful content hidden inside images? Alessandro Pignati, AI Security Researcher at NeuralTrust, joins Sean Martin to reveal a newly discovered vulnerability that affects some of the most widely used image-generation models on the market today. The technique, called semantic chaining, is an image-based jailbreak attack discovered by the NeuralTrust research team, and it raises important questions about how enterprises secure their multimodal AI deployments.

    How does semantic chaining work? Pignati explains that the attack uses a single prompt composed of several parts. It begins with a benign scenario, such as a historical or educational context. A second instruction asks the model to make an innocent modification, like changing the color of a background. The final, critical step introduces a malicious directive, instructing the model to embed harmful content directly into the generated image. Because image-generation models apply fewer safety filters than their text-based counterparts, the harmful instructions are rendered inside the image without triggering the usual safeguards.

    The NeuralTrust research team tested semantic chaining against prominent models including Gemini Nano Pro, Grok 4, and Seedream 4.5 by ByteDance, finding the attack effective across all of them. For enterprises, the implications extend well beyond consumer use cases. Pignati notes that if an AI agent or chatbot has access to a knowledge base containing sensitive information or personal data, a carefully structured semantic chaining prompt can force the model to generate that data directly into an image, bypassing text-based safety mechanisms entirely.

    Organizations looking to learn more about semantic chaining and the broader landscape of AI agent security can visit the NeuralTrust blog, where the research team publishes detailed breakdowns of their findings. NeuralTrust also offers a newsletter with regular updates on agent security research and newly discovered vulnerabilities.

    This is a Brand Highlight. A Brand Highlight is a ~5 minute introductory conversation designed to put a spotlight on the guest and their company. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/creation#highlight

    GUEST

    Alessandro Pignati, AI Security Researcher, NeuralTrust
    On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandro-pignati/

    RESOURCES

    Learn more about NeuralTrust: https://neuraltrust.ai/

    Are you interested in telling your story?
    ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full
    ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight
    ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight

    KEYWORDS

    Alessandro Pignati, NeuralTrust, Sean Martin, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand highlight, semantic chaining, image jailbreak, AI security, agentic AI, multimodal AI, LLM safety, AI red teaming, prompt injection, AI agent security, image-based attacks, enterprise AI security

    8 min
  • Building Community Around the AI SOC Revolution | A Brand Spotlight Conversation with Monzy Merza, Co-Founder and CEO of Crogl | AI SOC Summit 2026

    What happens when the security community stops debating whether AI belongs in the SOC and starts figuring out how to make it work? Monzy Merza, Co-Founder and CEO of Crogl, is helping answer that question, both through the autonomous AI SOC agent his company builds and through the inaugural AI SOC Summit, a community event designed to bring practitioners together for honest, no-nonsense conversation about what is real and what is hype in AI-driven security operations.

    Crogl builds what Merza describes as a "superhero suit" for SOC analysts. The platform investigates every alert in depth, working across multiple data lakes without requiring data normalization, and escalates only the issues that require human judgment. But the conversation here goes beyond any single product. Merza explains that the motivation for creating the AI SOC Summit came directly from community feedback. Security teams across enterprises are trying to determine what to buy, what to build, and how to govern AI in their environments, and they need a transparent, practical space to share those experiences.

    How are threat actors changing the game with agentic AI? Merza points to two critical shifts. First, adversaries are now conducting campaigns using agentic systems, which means defenders need to operate at the same speed. Second, the barrier to entry for sophisticated attacks has dropped significantly because agentic systems handle much of the technical detail, from crafting convincing phishing emails to automating post-exploitation activity. The implication is clear: security teams that do not adopt AI-driven capabilities risk falling behind attackers who already have.

    The AI SOC Summit, hosted March 3rd at the Hyatt Regency in Tysons, Virginia, is structured to serve the practitioners who are doing the daily work of security operations. The morning features keynotes from CISOs sharing what is working and what is not, along with perspectives on AI governance and privacy. The afternoon splits into two tracks: talk sessions from startups and established companies, and a five-and-a-half-hour hackathon where attendees get free access to frontier AI models and tools to experiment hands-on with real security data.

    Who should attend the AI SOC Summit? Merza identifies four key personas. SOC analysts at every tier who are buried in alert triage. Security engineers deploying AI-driven and traditional tools who want to see how other enterprises are rationalizing their investments. Incident responders and threat hunters who need to understand how to track agentic activity rather than just human activity. And builders, the security teams prototyping and testing AI capabilities in-house, who want to learn from what others have tried, what has failed, and what constraints can be overcome.

    What sets this event apart from the typical conference experience? The AI SOC Summit is intentionally vendor-agnostic. Sponsors range from reseller partners serving government organizations to household names like Splunk and Cribl, but the focus stays on community learning rather than product pitches. Many organizations still restrict employee access to frontier models and agentic systems, and the summit provides a space where attendees can kick the tires on these technologies without worrying about tooling costs or corporate restrictions. The goal is for every participant to leave with something practical they can take back and apply to their work immediately.

    This is a Brand Spotlight. A Brand Spotlight is a ~15 minute conversation designed to explore the guest, their company, and what makes their approach unique. Learn more: https://www.studioc60.com/creation#spotlight

    GUEST

    Monzy Merza, Co-Founder and CEO, Crogl [@monzymerza on X]
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/monzymerza

    RESOURCES

    Crogl: https://www.crogl.com
    AI SOC Summit: https://www.aisocsummit.com/

    Are you interested in telling your story?
    ▶︎ Full Length Brand Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#full
    ▶︎ Brand Spotlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#spotlight
    ▶︎ Brand Highlight Story: https://www.studioc60.com/content-creation#highlight

    KEYWORDS

    Monzy Merza, Crogl, Sean Martin, brand story, brand marketing, marketing podcast, brand spotlight, AI SOC Summit, AI SOC agent, security operations center, agentic AI, autonomous security, threat detection, SOC analyst, incident response, threat hunting, security engineering, AI governance, cybersecurity community, hackathon, frontier AI models, agentic speed, security automation

    18 min
  • It's Not a Technology Problem, It's an Organizational Opportunity -- Building a Culture of Cybersecurity | Human-Centered Cybersecurity Series with Co-Host Julie Haney and Guest Dr. Keri Pearlson | Redefining CyberSecurity with Sean Martin
    Show Notes

    Most organizations treat cybersecurity as a technology problem. They invest in layers of defense, run phishing tests, and deploy identity and access management tools. Yet headlines about breaches keep coming. Dr. Keri Pearlson, Senior Lecturer and Principal Research Scientist at the MIT Sloan School of Management, argues that the real opportunity lies not in more technology but in changing how people across the organization think about and value cybersecurity.

    In this episode of the Human-Centered Cybersecurity Series, co-hosted by Julie Haney, Computer Scientist and Lead of the Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), Dr. Keri Pearlson introduces her framework for cybersecurity culture built around values, attitudes, and beliefs. Rather than simply training employees on what to do, the focus shifts to shaping why they do it. When people genuinely believe cybersecurity matters, they take action without waiting for mandates or programs to tell them how.

    Dr. Pearlson shares vivid examples from her research: a CISO who hired a marketing professional to run the cybersecurity culture program, a CEO who opens every all-hands meeting with a five-minute cybersecurity story, and organizations that use creative rewards like chocolate chip cookies and digital badges to reinforce positive behaviors. She also outlines a five-stage maturity model for cybersecurity culture, from ad hoc efforts all the way to a dynamic culture that self-regulates as new threats like AI-driven vulnerabilities emerge.

    The conversation also tackles the relationship between organizational culture and cybersecurity culture, the role of group-level accountability, and why consequences matter just as much as rewards. Dr. Pearlson makes the case that cybersecurity should move from being viewed as an infrastructure play to a strategic advantage, one that can attract customers, reduce costs, and build competitive differentiation.

    For any leader looking to move the needle on security culture, this episode offers a research-backed roadmap and practical steps that anyone can take starting tomorrow.

    Host

    Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/

    Guest(s)

    Dr. Keri Pearlson, Senior Lecturer and Principal Research Scientist at MIT Sloan School of Management | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpearlson/

    Julie Haney (Co-Host), Computer Scientist and Lead, Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program at National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-haney-037449119/

    Resources

    Learn more about Dr. Keri Pearlson's research: https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/keri-pearlson

    Learn more about the NIST Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program: https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/human-centered-cybersecurity

    Cybersecurity at MIT Sloan (CAMS): https://cams.mit.edu/

    The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/

    More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast

    Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq

    Keywords

    dr. keri pearlson, julie haney, mit sloan, nist, sean martin, cybersecurity culture, security culture, values attitudes beliefs, cyber resilience, human-centered cybersecurity, security awareness, phishing, cybersecurity maturity model, security behavior, cybersecurity strategy, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast

    47 min
  • It Fractured, Then Rebuilt Itself: The CISO Role Changed More in Five Years Than Ever Before, Setting the Stage for 2026 | A Musing On the Future of Cybersecurity with Sean Martin and TAPE9 | Read by TAPE9

    Across dozens of conversations centered on the CISO experience, one reality keeps surfacing: the role no longer exists to protect systems in isolation. It exists to protect the business itself.

    Today’s CISO operates at the intersection of operational risk, executive decision-making, and organizational trust. The responsibility is not just to identify threats, but to help leadership understand which risks matter, when they matter, and why they deserve attention. This shift changes what success looks like. It also changes how pressure is felt.

    During the early years of this transition, CISOs carry accountability without authority. They are expected to influence outcomes without always having control over budgets, priorities, or timelines. That tension forces a new skill set to the forefront. Technical knowledge is assumed. The differentiator becomes communication, translation, and relationship-building across the business.

    As organizations mature, the conversation evolves again. Security stops being framed around individual threats and starts being framed as an operational discipline. CISOs focus on prioritization, tradeoffs, and clarity rather than coverage for everything. This requires judgment more than tooling.

    The role also becomes deeply human. Fear shows up quietly. Fear of pushing too hard. Fear of slowing the business. Fear of being seen as the blocker. CISOs who succeed do not eliminate that fear. They learn how to manage it while building credibility with executive peers.

    AI enters the picture not as a replacement, but as a force multiplier. Automation supports scale, but judgment remains human. Security programs increasingly deny by default and permit intentionally, which demands a deep understanding of how the business actually works. That understanding cannot be automated.

    What emerges is a clearer definition of modern security leadership. The CISO is no longer a gatekeeper. This is a risk advisor, a translator, and a strategist who helps the organization focus its limited resources where they matter most.

    The role has not become easier. It has become more meaningful.

    Read the full article: TBA

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    This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.

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    Sincerely, Sean Martin and TAPE9

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    Sean Martin is a life-long musician and the host of the Music Evolves Podcast; a career technologist, cybersecurity professional, and host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast; and is also the co-host of the On Location Event Coverage Podcast. These shows are all part of ITSPmagazine—which he co-founded with his good friend Marco Ciappelli, to explore and discuss topics at The Intersection of Technology, Cybersecurity, and Society.™️

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    To learn more about Sean, visit his personal website.

    Keywords: sean martin, marco ciappelli, steve katz, tim brown, jessica robinson, rob allen, rohit ghai, rich seiersen, steven j speer, chris pierson, mark lambert, jim manico, robin bylenga, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast, ciso, risk, leadership, ai, resilience, strategy

    16 min
  • Five Patterns From 152 Episodes That Reshaped How I Think About Security, Technology, and Work Heading into 2026 | A Musing On the Future of Cybersecurity with Sean Martin and TAPE9 | Read by TAPE9

    Across 152 conversations this year, a set of recurring patterns kept surfacing, regardless of whether the discussion focused on application security, software supply chain risk, AI systems, or creative work. The industries varied. The roles varied. The challenges did not.

    One theme rises above the rest: visibility remains the foundation of everything else, yet organizations continue to accept blind spots as normal. Asset inventories are incomplete. Build systems are poorly understood. Dependencies change faster than teams can track them. The issue is not a lack of tools. It is a willingness to tolerate uncertainty because discovery feels hard or disruptive.

    Another pattern is equally consistent. Integration matters more than novelty. New features, including AI-driven ones, sound compelling until they fail to connect with what teams already rely on. Security programs fracture when tools operate in isolation. Coverage looks strong on paper while gaps quietly expand in practice. When tools fail to integrate into existing environments, they create complexity instead of reducing risk.

    Security also continues to struggle with how it shows up in daily work. Programs succeed when security is embedded into workflows, automated where possible, and invisible until it matters. They fail when security acts as a gate that arrives after decisions are already made. Teams either adopt security naturally or route around it entirely. There is no neutral middle ground.

    Context repeatedly separates effective leadership from noise. Risk only becomes meaningful when it is framed in terms of business operations, delivery speed, and real tradeoffs. Leaders who understand how the business actually functions communicate risk clearly and make better decisions under pressure.

    Finally, creativity remains undervalued in security conversations. Automation should remove repetitive tasks so people can focus on judgment, problem solving, and design. The same mindset that produces elegant guitars, photographs, or products applies directly to building resilient security programs.

    These five patterns are not independent ideas. Together, they describe a shift toward security that is visible, integrated, contextual, workflow-driven, and human-centered.

    Read the full article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/five-patterns-from-152-podcast-episodes-2025-changed-i-martin-cissp-st1ge

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    This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.

    Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to "The Future of Cybersecurity" newsletter on LinkedIn: https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity

    Sincerely, Sean Martin and TAPE9

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    Sean Martin is a life-long musician and the host of the Music Evolves Podcast; a career technologist, cybersecurity professional, and host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast; and is also the co-host of the On Location Event Coverage Podcast. These shows are all part of ITSPmagazine—which he co-founded with his good friend Marco Ciappelli, to explore and discuss topics at The Intersection of Technology, Cybersecurity, and Society.™️

    Would you like Sean to work with you on a topic/series to help you tell your story? Visit his services page to learn more: https://www.seanmartin.com/services

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    To learn more about Sean, visit his personal website.

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