Charlie Sykes and Reed Galen discuss the latest political turmoil, including the potential government shutdown, economic uncertainty, and the evolving dynamics within the Republican Party. They examine the rise of authoritarian figures, the state of the opposition, and the disconnect between voters and the political establishment. The conversation also delves into the broader implications of America's shifting global role, the dangers of Trumpism, and how Democrats can counteract the MAGA movement in an increasingly fractured political landscape.

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