In this episode, I sit down with Sarah Keller, a junior researcher at the University of Zurich specializing in sustainability and its intersections with science, society, and policy. Sarah’s unique journey started with an unconventional childhood spent traveling across the globe, immersing herself in diverse cultures, and gaining firsthand experience in anthropology long before she knew the term. From her early participant observation in local communities to her academic focus on sustainability, Sarah’s perspective is as rich as it is insightful.
Together, we explore how her global upbringing shaped her understanding of learning, adaptation, and the role of education as socialization. Sarah shares her transition back into the Swiss educational system, her professional journey through sustainability-focused investment, and how her studies in anthropology provided her with a lens to navigate the complex cultural, economic, and environmental dimensions of sustainability.
We also dive into the nuances of sustainability as a term and practice, examining its challenges, such as its perceived elitism and greenwashing, and the importance of viewing it through an inclusive, interdisciplinary framework. Whether you’re curious about sustainability, fascinated by anthropology, or rethinking the purpose of education, this episode offers a wealth of ideas to inspire personal growth and systemic change.
00:00 – Introducing Sarah Helena Keller and her work
03:00 – Early travels and informal education
06:00 – Reintegration into school and socialization
10:00 – Learning through languages and immersion
15:00 – Curiosity, freedom, and motivation to learn
20:00 – Lessons from the Swiss education system
25:00 – The value of apprenticeship and real-world learning
30:00 – Entering university later in life
35:00 – Choosing anthropology and embracing curiosity
40:00 – Redefining success and non-linear growth
45:00 – The role of people in shaping meaningful work
50:00 – Finding purpose in sustainability and social science
55:00 – Cultural perspectives on sustainability
58:00 – Rethinking change, values, and education
1:01:08 – Closing reflections on language, peace, and meaning