Chuck and Nathan finish their conversation with Ted Wueste talking about the importance of slowing. The reality is, "you can't love fast."

Nathan and Chuck are joined by Ted Weuste, founder of the Spiritual Formation Society of Arizona, who shares his story of being deeply formed through suffering.

Steve Machhia, author and founder of Leadership Transformations, joins Chuck and Nathan to discuss the vital importance of discernment in the life of a leader.

Chuck and Nathan talk to clinical psychologist, spiritual director, and director of Conversatio Divina Gary Moon about the experiential knowledge of the love of God.

Nathan and Karen finish their conversation with Dr. Gary Moon (author of Becoming Dallas Willard) on the life and influence of philosopher, teacher, and Christ-follower Dallas Willard.

Karen and Nathan interview Dr. Gary Moon, Director of Conversatio Divina and Senior Fellow of the Martin Institute of Westmont College in Southern California. Gary was a personal friend of Dallas Willard and is the author of his biography, Becoming Dallas Willard.

Nathan and Karen talk with Dr. Steve Porter about what praying without ceasing is, how to learn to stay aware of the presence of Jesus, and to remain in communion with him at all times.

Karen and Nathan talk spiritual disciplines with Dr. Steve Porter . . . what they are, what they aren't, and ultimately, how they really are a means of grace God has given to cultivate intimacy with him.

Nathan and Chuck talk to Ruth Haley Barton about her favorite spiritual practice: Sabbath. "I don't keep the Sabbath. The Sabbath keeps me."

Ruth Haley Barton is a spiritual director, teacher, author, and founder of the Transforming Center. In this episode, Nathan and Chuck talk with her about why leaders tend to neglect their souls rather than seek to care for them.