Nathan and Karen talk to the late Dr. Bruce Demarest to provide clarity on the Christian life and what we can expect along the way. Part 2 in a series on the stages of development in the spiritual life.

The late Dr. Bruce Demarest, long-time professor and author of “Seasons of the Soul,” helps us understand the spiritual life as a journey. Part 1 in a series on the stages of development in the spiritual life.

Nathan and Karen talk to Dr. A. J. Sherrill, author of The Enneagram for Spiritual Formation, on how the enneagram helps us zero in on our unique process of spiritual formation through both upstream (difficult) and downstream (easy) practices.

Dr. A. J. Sherrill is a professor, Anglican pastor, enneagram expert, and author of The Enneagram for Spiritual Formation. In this episode, Nathan and Karen talk to A. J. about what the enneagram is and some common misconceptions that surround this unique personality tool.

Chuck and Nathan finish their conversation with Ted Wueste talking about the importance of slowing. The reality is, "you can't love fast."

Nathan and Chuck are joined by Ted Weuste, founder of the Spiritual Formation Society of Arizona, who shares his story of being deeply formed through suffering.

Steve Machhia, author and founder of Leadership Transformations, joins Chuck and Nathan to discuss the vital importance of discernment in the life of a leader.

Chuck and Nathan talk to clinical psychologist, spiritual director, and director of Conversatio Divina Gary Moon about the experiential knowledge of the love of God.

Nathan and Karen finish their conversation with Dr. Gary Moon (author of Becoming Dallas Willard) on the life and influence of philosopher, teacher, and Christ-follower Dallas Willard.

Karen and Nathan interview Dr. Gary Moon, Director of Conversatio Divina and Senior Fellow of the Martin Institute of Westmont College in Southern California. Gary was a personal friend of Dallas Willard and is the author of his biography, Becoming Dallas Willard.