For this special episode, we turn the tables and become the interviewees! Genesis Amaris Kemp, host of the GEMS podcast, interviews us about the seven-word formula, stability, intimacy, how we met, and a bunch of other fun topics.

Dr. Chalmer's book Reigniting the Spark: Why Stable Relationships Lose Intimacy, and How to Get It Back is available here, or wherever you get your books.

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Music: Besamim (Spices) by Bruce Chalmer, performed by Fyre and Lightning Consort