In this episode of No Tippy Tappy Football, Natalie Pike and Sam Allardyce are joined by Karl Robinson. Big Sam and Karl reflect on a range of stories from their time at Blackburn together, Karl rejecting the Leeds United job and delve into topics such as whether football has become overcomplicated.

They also look at the talent of Phil Foden, the issues Karl's former player Dele Alli has faced and discuss the credentials of Steve Cooper as a potential replacement for Gareth Southgate...