Relatively Ordinary

When nature calls, we answer. We talk about the benefits of being in nature, how it impacts our lives and how to get more of it. Also, Karl gives the world’s least inspiring elevator pitch.

We ring in the new year tanned and full of optimism after a reinvigorating family vacation. We open up with the questions we SHOULD have asked before we got married (too late now!) and go into a deeper exploration of life lessons we’ve learned from our respective travel experiences. What does it mean to be an American? We’re sure we don’t know, but we love it anyway!

We're in the Christmas spirit for another episode of Relatively Ordinary! We talk New Years resolutions and why its so difficult to help your spouse start the snowblower over the phone. Karl asks his favorite desirable difficulty her opinion on cultivating resilience in ourselves and our children. Happy Holidays!

Betsy tees Karl up to hit one out of the park this week with a game-winning episode about competition and sports. We take a few warmup shots by pretending we’re Gwyneth Paltrow in “Sliding Doors”, then break the huddle and run our favorite plays. Big questions to tackle: are we too focused on winning? Do kids have enough recreational sports opportunities? How much should Karl get paid to play baseball? Can Betsy dunk on sports gambling before the buzzer sounds? Listen and find out!

We all love the technology that gives us driving directions, helps us with homework, saves time with grocery shopping and makes our poop magically disappear. But is the relentless drive toward technology pervading every corner of our lives a good thing or are we all just being buried in enshittification? Professor Fairly Fair gives us a breakdown of the impact of distractions on education, we talk about the pros and cons about kids and phones, and speculate about the subtler, crappier side of the digital divide.

We spend our latest “crappy date night” pontificating on the wild, weird world of AI. We explore topics of ethics, policy, science, Reddit, and what Karl named his AI girlfriend. We're AI optimists... for now.

In our milestone 10th episode we agree that the only thing we’d add to our “three months to live” bucket list is to become outspoken jerks. Then, after narrowly avoiding an on-air domestic dispute, we debate the causes and meaning of America’s housing affordability crisis.

This week we talk about our old friend burnout. We share our personal tales of burnout, how to recognize when burnout is pending, and how to prevent going down the burnout hole ever again (as if that’s even possible…). Also, hawktoturtles, birthday suits, and Betsy introduces the world to "Dinnercise" (patent pending).

In this episode we’re putting the yin back in your yang. Karl appeals to Betsy's sense of "equality" by letting her hog the mic and preach about what it means to be a woman. Apparently, it involves kicking ass.

In our latest episode we talk about when the time is right to put a bun in the oven, reflecting on our experience of starting a family and how that decision has shaped our lives. We briefly find religion, debate the future of the planet, and recall the glory days of falling asleep on piles of Legos.