Reluctantly...

Mike Plume is back, and as usual, there’s no set list.
Terry and Mike catch up for a wide-ranging conversation about music, memories, and the stories collected over a lifetime of playing songs. Mike shares an unforgettable encounter with Dolly Parton during his Nashville years and reflects on her song-writing, humour, generosity, and remarkable ability to make everyone around her feel important.
The conversation wanders through The Tragically Hip, Loverboy, Bruce Allen, Elvis, song-writing, self-deprecation, and Mike’s earliest days as a terrified teenage singer in Bonnyville. He also talks about a possible 30th-anniversary vinyl reissue of Song & Dance Man and plans for an anniversary tour.
Takeaways
Authenticity and kindness are key to a lasting music career
Dolly Parton's genuine personality left a lasting impression on Mike Plume
Storytelling and sharing personal stories enhance live performances
Reissuing albums involves significant costs and planning
Building a community through live shows creates lifelong fans.

Chapters

(0:01) — Intro and catching up
(2:21) — Dolly Parton story begins
(3:30) — Voiceover work and the double-booked studio
(5:33) — Dolly walks into the studio
(7:32) — Dolly’s kindness and “give them one of yours”
(9:47) — Seeing Emmylou, Dolly, and Linda at the Ryman
(11:20) — Dolly’s confidence, work, and generosity
(14:39) — Songwriters known by first name
(18:14) — “Jolene” at half speed and the Cocaine and Rhinestones podcast
(21:00) — Bobby Cameron and self-deprecation
(24:41) — Bruce Allen, Loverboy, and the Colonel
(26:34) — Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame discussion
(29:34) — Bonnyville gala and music community
(30:58) — First performance memories in Bonnyville
(35:35) — Set lists, improvising, and reading the room
(37:26) — Internet radio station idea
(39:30) — Song and Dance Man turning 30
(46:09) — Upcoming western tour dates
(47:13) — Jenny duo show and how it came together
(49:38) — Songs and stories format for the duo show
(51:18) — Jenny’s song-writing and audience discovery
(53:07) — Road life and touring logistics
(55:58) — Tour dates and ticket info
(56:27) — Guitar stories and future guitar episode idea
(59:21) — Wrap-up and hockey talk

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Terry sits down with legendary CFCW radio personality Jackie Rae Greening to remember the extraordinary life and legacy of Dolly Parton. From her humble beginnings in Tennessee’s Smoky Mountains to becoming one of the most beloved entertainers in the world, Dolly never forgot where she came from—or the people she could help along the way.
Terry and Jackie share stories about Dolly’s songwriting, her unforgettable interviews and performances, her business savvy, Dollywood, the Imagination Library, and the remarkable generosity that defined her life. They also revisit classics like “Jolene,” “9 to 5” and “I Will Always Love You,” along with Jackie’s personal memories of meeting and interviewing Dolly.
More than a tribute to a music legend, this is a conversation about kindness, authenticity, ambition, joy and a woman whose legacy reaches far beyond the songs. Long live Dolly.
Takeaways
Dolly's authenticity and kindness made her universally loved.
Her strategic career decisions helped her become a global superstar.
Her philanthropic work, including Dollywood and the Imagination Library, leaves a lasting legacy.
Her ability to stay true to her roots while evolving her brand is inspiring.
Her humility and professionalism set a standard for success.
Chapters
00:00 — Remembering Dolly Parton** — Terry and Jackie Rae Greening reflect on Dolly’s passing and why the response crossed generations and musical genres.
01:54 — From the Smoky Mountains to Nashville** — Dolly’s childhood, early performances, unmistakable image and determination to become a star.
03:00 — Jackie’s Personal Memories of Dolly** — Meeting and interviewing Dolly and discovering just how professional and genuine she was.
04:10 — Poverty, Family & Giving Back** — Growing up one of 12 children, Dollywood, education and how Dolly turned her roots into opportunity for others.
07:03 — How Dolly Became a Global Superstar** — Reinventing her career, reaching younger audiences and the massive 2014 Glastonbury performance.
10:41 — Ambition Without Losing Her Warmth** — Dolly’s professionalism, confidence and ability to make everyone feel valued.
14:19 — Dolly Live: The Rogers Place Story** — Jackie remembers Dolly’s intimate, stripped-down Edmonton performance and her remarkable connection with an arena crowd.
16:52 — The Imagination Library & Dolly’s Edmonton Connection** — Her commitment to literacy, hundreds of millions of books and some lesser-known Edmonton connections.
18:59 — The Wigs, the Look & the Joke** — Dolly’s legendary wigs, wardrobe and willingness to laugh at herself.
20:41 — The Story Behind “9 to 5”** — How Dolly wrote the song during filming—and turned her acrylic nails into percussion.
22:17 — “Jolene” & “I Will Always Love You”** — Were two of Dolly’s greatest songs really written on the same day?
23:37 — Whitney Houston, Elvis & a Brilliant Business Decision** — The Whitney version of “I Will Always Love You” and why Dolly refused to surrender half the publishing to Elvis Presley.
26:26 — Women Taking Control of Country Music** — Dolly, Loretta Lynn and other women who wrote about real life and fought for control of their careers.
28:50 — Breaking Free From Porter Wagoner** — The lawsuit, Dolly’s independence and her eventual reconciliation with Porter.
31:41 — Dolly’s Influence on Lainey Wilson** — Branding, authenticity and how Dolly became a blueprint for generations of female artists.
34:25 — Kindness Was Dolly’s Superpower** — Why seemingly everybody loved Dolly—and why kindness never meant weakness. 36:40 — Joy as a Responsibility** — Dolly’s generosity toward other performers and the small gestures people remembered forever.
37:24 — Tributes From Across the Music World** — The reaction from artists including Brett Kissel and Jackie’s unforgettable personalized Dolly message for Brett.
40:06 — Philanthropy With a Purpose** — Literacy, jobs, medical research and using the proceeds of her success to create opportunities for others.
41:28 — Is “I Will Always Love You” the Perfect Song?** — Terry and Jackie discuss the extraordinary emotional power of Dolly’s original recording.
43:05 — “I Thought She’d Always Be Here”** — Jackie reveals why she never prepared an obituary piece for Dolly—and they reflect on a legacy that will outlive all of us.

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Clayton Bellamy returns to **The Reluctantly Podcast** nearly two years after helping launch the show, and there’s a lot to catch up on. Clayton and Terry start with the stories behind some of the treasured guitars in their collections—because every great guitar seems to carry a little history with it—before diving into Clayton’s early days grinding out six-night-a-week gigs and learning how to command a room.
Clayton also opens up about his new seven-song solo album, **Soft Kind of Loud**, a stripped-down, soulful collection inspired in part by his years performing *The Legendary Life of Tom Petty*. They talk 20 years of The Road Hammers, the growth of Sky Song Records, and Clayton’s passion for creating opportunities for the next generation through his foundation and new performing arts centre.
Music, guitars, Tom Petty, old road stories, new beginnings—and two long time friends catching up.
Key Topics
Clayton Bellamy's guitar stories and their significance
The influence of Tom Petty on Clayton's music and performances
The importance of community and legacy in supporting the arts
Details about Clayton's upcoming album 'Soft Kind of Loud'
The role of the performing arts center in nurturing new talent
The evolution of The Roadhammers and their ongoing projects
Sky Song Records and artist development
The emotional connection to guitars and their stories
Clayton's approach to song writing and musical experimentation
Upcoming performances and the significance of live shows
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction and Clayton Bellamy's Guitar Wall Stories
01:10 - Special Guitars and Their Stories: From College to the Road
04:12 - The Rickenbacker and Gretsch: Iconic Guitars with Stories
08:13 - Inherited Guitars and Their Personal Significance
12:32 - The Broken Dobro and the Gift of Music
13:35 - Guitars as Memories and Hauntings
17:44 - Touring with the Steel Guitar and Lessons from Gordy Johnson
20:54 - The Early Days of Touring and Building a Career
25:36 - Two Years of Nonstop Growth and Projects
28:44 - Upcoming Gala, Golf Event, and Exciting Lineup
31:03 - The Song 'I Miss Tom Petty' and Its Significance
34:52 - New Album 'Soft Kind of Loud' and Its Emotional Depth
36:47 - The Gospel and Big Band Elements in Clayton’s Music
40:23 - Vocal Range and Artistic Experimentation
43:00 - The Influence of Chris Stapleton and Soulful Music
45:22 - Evolution of Clayton Bellamy’s Musical Style
50:52 - Balancing Multiple Projects and Future Plans
01:03:35 - The Importance of Community and the New Performing Arts Center
01:08:29 - Inspiring the Next Generation and Leaving a Legacy
01:10:15 - What's Next for Clayton Bellamy and His Music
www.claytonbellamy.com
www.theroadhammers.ca
www.reluctantlypodcast.com
@theroadhammers @claytonbellamy
@ZoneOnePodcast @TheWealthRoundUp @thenetworkofgiving @TheAlbertaGolfPodcast @DistilleryDiscovery
#ClaytonBellamy #guitarstories #musiclegacy #TheRoadhammers #TomPettytribute #newalbum #SkySongRecords #strathconaperformingartscenter #songwriting #musicalinspiration

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On this episode of The Reluctantly Podcast, Terry welcomes Alberta song-writing duo Dahlia Wakefield and Kevin Frey for a Local Music Spotlight. They talk about their unlikely connection over pico de gallo, how their song-writing partnership began in 2023, and the chemistry that turns Kevin’s rock riffs and Dahlia’s lyrics into original music. Dahlia shares her journey through country, rock, metal, tribute bands, music teaching, and a return to writing and recording her own songs. They also discuss their award-nominated music, including “Well Dressed Lies” and “Light of the Phoenix,” which has received international recognition and radio play around the world. Along the way, they get into the realities of making a living in music, surviving the COVID shutdown, performing everything from Heart and Iron Maiden to classics for seniors, and what’s next—including a new single, a full album, live shows, and plenty more music to come very soon.
Key Topics
The journey of Dahlia Wakefield and Kevin Frey in the music industry
Challenges faced by musicians during COVID-19 and how they adapted
The importance of live performances and upcoming gigs
Their experience with awards and recognition in the music scene
The process of song-writing and collaboration between Dahlia and Kevin
Plans for new music releases and international recognition
The role of music education and mentorship in their careers
Insights into the Edmonton music scene and local venues
The evolution of music distribution and streaming platforms
The significance of supporting local artists and live music venues
Chapters
0:00 – Opening and studio setup
1:21 – Introducing Dalia Wakefield and Kevin Fry
1:49 – International Singer-Songwriter Association nominations
3:09 – Atlanta, Nashville, and travel plans
6:37 – How the song-writing partnership began
7:57 – Music training, Grant MacEwan, and learning guitar
11:02 – Teaching music and building a foundation
12:47 – Dalia’s background and family story
14:07 – Live shows, band projects, and performance life
17:02 – Rock, metal, and finding her lane
19:40 – Covers vs original songs
23:01 – Recording, harmonies, and finishing the album
24:36 – Stepping away from music and coming back
26:23 – COVID, caregiving, and the impact on musicians
31:24 – Online lessons and adapting to teaching
34:13 – Working with Sandro Dominelli
36:30 – The song-writing process and creative synergy
38:55 – Radio play, PR, and international reach
41:51 – Writing through struggle and emotion
46:23 – Performing for seniors and different audiences
49:40 – Doo-wop, Beatles, and older classics
51:05 – Heart, Led Zeppelin, and vocal range
53:50 – Upcoming shows and release dates
55:43 – New single, album release, and party plans
www.dahliawakefield.com
www.reluctantlypodcast.com
@dahliawakefield
@ZoneOnePodcast @TheWealthRoundUp @TheAlbertaGolfPodcast @thenetworkofgiving @DistilleryDiscovery
#Music #Songwriting #LivePerformance #MusicIndustryAwards #MusicCollaboration #EdmontonMusicScene #MusicEducation #NewMusicReleases #yegmusic

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Before podcasts, or at least when Podcasts were JUST starting...there was great radio—and this is one of those moments. Originally heard only once on The Terry, Bill & Steve Show, this unforgettable interview with legendary comedian, actor, filmmaker, and author Bobcat Goldthwait is now available again exclusively on the Reluctantly Podcast. Bobcat joins Terry, Bill and Steve for an unfiltered conversation packed with hilarious stories from his stand-up career, the Police Academy films, directing independent movies, working with Robin Williams, and collaborating with Ray Davies of The Kinks. Along the way, the conversation takes unexpected detours through Hollywood, radio, celebrity encounters, comedy writing, and Bobcat's uniquely twisted outlook on life. Fast-paced, irreverent, and completely unscripted, this is the kind of interview that could only happen on live radio. If you missed it the first time—or want to hear one of Terry's favourite interviews again—this exclusive flashback is your chance to experience a true broadcasting gem.
Key Topics
Bobcat Goldthwaite's career highlights
Stories from Police Academy and Hollywood
Insights into comedy and filmmaking
Humorous behind-the-scenes anecdotes
His perspective on aging and creativity
Takeaways
Humor can be found in everyday life and career experiences.
Authenticity and staying true to your style are key in comedy.
Behind-the-scenes stories reveal the human side of Hollywood.
Laughter is a universal connector and a powerful tool.
Persistence and passion drive success in entertainment.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro & Chilean Miners
02:08 - Bobcat Goldthwait Joins the Show
08:50 - Comedy & Touring
13:00 - Being Recognized in Public
15:00 - Weird Hollywood Pitches
18:40 - Mormons, Scientology & Stand-Up
20:55 - Police Academy & Movies
24:30 - Robin Williams & Ray Davies
26:45 - Setting The Tonight Show on Fire
30:00 - Life on the Road
32:00 - Opening for Nirvana
34:10 - Relationships & Radio Stories
36:15 - Wrap-Up
www.reluctantlypodcast.com
@ZoneOnePodcast @DistilleryDiscovery @TheWealthRoundUp @TheAlbertaGolfPodcast @thenetworkofgiving
#BobcatGoldthwait #comedy #Hollywood #PoliceAcademy #stand-up #filmmaking #entertainment #stories #humor

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Distillery Discovery @DistilleryDiscovery part of the Reluctantly Podcast Network, where host Terry Evans dives into the fascinating world of craft spirits by sitting down with master distillers, blenders, and industry innovators from Alberta and around the globe. Each episode uncovers the stories behind the bottles—the passion, setbacks, craftsmanship, and creativity that shape today's distilling industry. From bourbon and rye to gin, vodka, and whisky, (or whiskEy if you're American) you get an inside look at the techniques, traditions, and personalities driving the spirits renaissance. Whether you're a seasoned whisky enthusiast, a cocktail lover, or simply curious about how great spirits are made, Distillery Discovery delivers engaging conversations, behind-the-scenes insights, and inspiring entrepreneurial journeys. It's more than a podcast about alcohol—it's about the people who dedicate their lives to creating exceptional spirits and the communities that grow around them. Pour yourself a dram, settle in, and discover the stories behind every barrel and every bottle.
Key Topics
Brandon McCraney's military background and transition to distilling
The importance of blending in whiskey craftsmanship
Sourcing barrels globally and the concept of elevage
Environmental effects on barrel aging in North Carolina
Challenges faced during startup and COVID-19 impact
The role of heritage and lineage in whiskey creation
Strategies for market expansion and product uniqueness
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Brandon McCraney and Distillery
02:24 - Military Background and Transition to Whiskey
07:17 - Heritage, Lineage, and Family Influence
12:29 - Starting the Distillery During COVID-19
22:10 - The Art of Whiskey Blending
30:43 - Sourcing and Aging Techniques
40:58 - Whiskey and Cigar Pairing
46:29 - Future Plans and Market Expansion
https://olderaleighdistillery.com/
@DistilleryDiscovery @ZoneOnePodcast @TheWealthRoundUp @TheAlbertaGolfPodcast @thenetworkofgiving
#Whiskey #Whisky #Distillery #Blending #NorthCarolina #CraftSpirits #BarrelAging #WhiskeyHeritage #EntrepreneurialJourney

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What happens when legendary comedian Ron White sits down with Terry, Bill & Steve for an unfiltered morning radio interview? Comedy gold.
Recorded during one of White's Canadian tours, this episode is packed with hilarious stories about life on the road, touring by bus, golf at Augusta National with Jeff Foxworthy, John Daly, Tiger Woods, Canadian audiences, and the moments that happen offstage that fans rarely get to hear. Ron's quick wit and signature storytelling shine as the conversation bounces from stand-up comedy to golf, Scotch, marriage, and everything in between.
More than just an interview, this episode captures the magic of personality-driven radio—three hosts giving a comedy icon the space to simply tell great stories. Whether you're a Ron White fan, a golfer, a comedy lover, or nostalgic for the golden age of radio, you'll find plenty of laughs and unforgettable moments in this classic conversation.
Key Topics
Ron White's career highlights and stories
Life on tour and travel experiences
Humorous takes on golf and celebrities
Behind-the-scenes of comedy festivals and shows
Personal anecdotes about travel, relationships, and hobbies
Takeaways
Humor is a universal language that connects people across different backgrounds.
Traveling on a bus is more efficient for comedians than flying, especially with the right setup.
Celebrity stories often reveal more about human nature than the fame itself.
Golf and comedy both require patience, practice, and a good sense of humor.
Authenticity and personal stories are key to connecting with an audience.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction and Ron White's background
02:03 - Traveling on tour: Bus vs. airplane
04:06 - Golf stories and celebrity encounters
05:55 - Humor about relationships and marriage
08:00 - Celebrity anecdotes: Tiger Woods and John Daly
09:58 - Traveling with family and life on the road
11:50 - Comedy festivals and touring experiences
14:07 - Humor about alcohol, scotch, and lifestyle
15:54 - Personal stories: childhood, marriage, and friendships
17:59 - Behind-the-scenes of comedy and celebrity interactions
20:05 - Closing thoughts and audience appreciation
www.reluctantlypodcast.com @ronwhitecomedy
@ZoneOnePodcast @TheWealthRoundUp @TheAlbertaGolfPodcast @thenetworkofgiving @DistilleryDiscovery @ZoneOnePodcast
#RonWhite #comedy #travel #golf #lifeontheroad #humor #storytelling #celebrityanecdotes #standup #standupcomedy #augustanational #pgatour

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Terry sits down with Lucas Holt and Brandon Yaggey from Edmonton's Whale and the Wolf for an honest, funny, and behind-the-scenes conversation about life in an independent Canadian band. They discuss their journey from teenage garage bands to sharing stages with major acts, the challenges of writing original music, the realities of touring across Canada, and the unforgettable moments that make the grind worthwhile. The duo reflects on hearing their songs on the radio for the first time, why local radio still matters, the changing music industry, and the freedom that comes with staying independent. They also share stories from memorable shows, the importance of supporting local artists, and what fans can expect as they prepare to open for The Beaches at K-Days. Whether you're a music fan, aspiring musician, or simply love great stories, this episode is a candid look at passion, perseverance, and the friendships that keep great bands together.
Key Topics
Band formation and longevity (10+ years)
Radio success and local support in Canada
Transition from covers to original music
Touring challenges and memorable shows
Impact of local radio on band popularity
Songwriting process and band dynamics
The significance of live performances and memorable gigs
Navigating the music industry as an independent band

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In this episode of The Reluctantly Podcast, Terry Evans sits down with legendary Edmonton broadcaster Bob Layton for a conversation that spans more than five decades of radio, community service, and unforgettable stories. From being expelled from school and accidentally landing his first radio job in Fort St. John to becoming one of Edmonton’s most respected news voices at 630 CHED, Bob reflects on the people, moments, and lessons that shaped his remarkable career. Along the way, he shares behind-the-scenes stories about Jerry Forbes, Marty Forbes, Wayne Gretzky, creative radio promotions, and the campaign that helped bring the Edmonton Police Service’s Air One helicopter to life. The conversation also explores Bob’s books, his passion for giving back, and the mentors who influenced generations of broadcasters. It’s an entertaining, heartfelt look at a broadcasting icon whose impact extends far beyond the microphone.
Key Topics
Bob Layton's early life and name influence
His start in radio and early challenges
The story behind the police helicopter fundraiser
The role of community and philanthropy in his career
Memorable moments and stories from radio history
The importance of mentorship and legacy in media
Chapters
00:00 - The Influence of Names on Legacy
03:03 - Bob Layton's Journey in Broadcasting
05:57 - Childhood Experiences and Their Impact
09:11 - The Role of Family in Career Choices
12:11 - Transitioning to Radio and Early Challenges
15:03 - Mentorship and Learning in Broadcasting
18:01 - The Evolution of Radio and Personal Growth
21:05 - Navigating Controversy in Media
24:07 - The Legacy of Jerry Forbes and Community Impact
32:12 - Mentorship and Community Connections
34:46 - Early Radio Experiences and Career Beginnings
37:48 - The Impact of Mentorship on Career Growth
38:59 - Humorous Anecdotes from Broadcasting Life
46:53 - Philanthropy in Broadcasting: The Little Tiny Uglies
48:18 - The Great One: Wayne Gretzky's Breakfast
50:01 - Creative Radio Pranks and Their Consequences
54:48 - The Birth of Air One: A Community Initiative
01:07:39 - Team Effort in Community Projects
01:14:22 - Continuing the Legacy: Speaking Engagements and Community Service
www.reluctantlypodcast.com
@DistilleryDiscovery @ZoneOnePodcast @TheWealthRoundUp @TheAlbertaGolfPodcast @thenetworkofgiving
#broadcasting #radiohistory #communityservice #polichelicopter #storytelling #media #philanthropy #Edmonton #radiolegends #broadcasting #yegmedia

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Another TBS Flashback!
Comedian Patrice O'Neal stopped by The Terry, Bill and Steve Show ahead of his 2009 headlining run at the Comic Strip in West Edmonton Mall, and the conversation goes everywhere.  Sadly, we lost Patrice in November of 2011after a stroke took his life. This TBS Show was one of one. It was heard ONCE...and never again until now. O'Neal's unfiltered take on relationships, loyalty, and what he really thinks makes a marriage work — spoiler: it's not the fairy tale version is just part of this episode. The New Jersey-via-Boston comic opens up about life on the road, his first impressions of Edmonton (and its distinct lack of diversity compared to home), and how he reads a crowd during a Q&A set the night before. Sports fans will enjoy a deep dive into heartbreaking franchise moments, from Steve Smith's infamous own-goal against Calgary to the Patriots' near-perfect season gone wrong. Blunt, sharp-tongued, and never short on opinions, O'Neal delivers a candid, no-holds-barred conversation that's equal parts comedy and commentary.
 Key  Topics
The role of honesty in comedy and relationships
Cultural differences in social interactions
The evolution of language and social norms
Insights into the entertainment industry and comedy
Personal stories and perspectives on life and love
Takeaways
Honesty in comedy can be a powerful tool for connection and reflection.
Cultural norms influence how humor and social interactions are perceived.
Language evolves and reflects societal changes, especially around sensitive topics.
Authenticity and rawness are valued in comedy and personal relationships.
Understanding different cultural backgrounds can foster empathy and better communication.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Patrice O'Neal
02:56 - The Nature of Anger and Cynicism
05:44 - Relationships and Marriage Perspectives
09:02 - Cultural Observations and Humor
12:04 - The Impact of Political Correctness
15:04 - Music and Personal Taste
17:40 - Sports and Personal Experiences
20:54 - Cultural Differences and Interactions
24:04 - Language and Expression
www.reluctantlypodcast.com
@ZoneOnePodcast @TheWealthRoundUp @TheAlbertaGolfPodcast @thenetworkofgiving @DistilleryDiscovery
#PatriceONeal #comedy #culture #relationships #entertainment #humor #TerryBillandSteveShow #interview #Canadiancomedy #politicallyincorrect  #socialcommentary

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